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  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    In addition, Tulsi Gabbard cosponsored the Medicare For All Act in 2017 and in 2019. (I haven’t looked at the specific bills, but I’m pretty sure both were endorsed by Sanders.) She’s still a member of the Medicare For All Caucus. She did switch to a watered-down version of M4A during the primary, along with every other candidate except Sanders. But she never attacked Sanders or his plan.

    And that's why a vote on M4A does not matter. All the cosponsors can vote yes, because it won't pass the House. In a few years they'll flip their positions if Dems actually have the votes to pass it.

    • kilternkafuffle [any]
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      It does matter. I don't care if they're all faking it - the more of them do it the more popular it looks and the more pressure there is on those who didn't cosponsor to do so next time.

      Yes, the Dems routinely pretend to want popular shit specifically because they can't actually pass it. But that isn't nothing. It puts them on the record. It sets up leftist talking points against them if they ever reverse their position. It's a long battle - but every tiny step is progress.

      What's the alternative? "Yes, Madam Speaker, we don't want to alienate Representative Baxter Oilwellington of Louisiana, a $15 minimum wage by 2050 is a fair compromise" ?

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        What’s the alternative? “Yes, Madam Speaker, we don’t want to alienate Representative Baxter Oilwellington of Louisiana, a $15 minimum wage by 2050 is a fair compromise” ?

        Give the climate change committee the power to advance legislation and issue subpoenas. At the moment it can't do that. Get rid of PAYGO rules that limit govt spending. Give the good committee positions to Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush, give fuck all to the new moderates. Get Peolosi to wear clown makeup a few times idk.

        https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1337955687666749441

        If there are bad concessions then AOC should absolutely not vote for Pelosi as speaker. But I don't think the vote is happening until next month so we don't know what's happening quite yet. My only point is that an M4A isn't that exciting of a concession

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          That's fair. But I don't think AOC demanding M4A more stringently is an obstacle to the other goals AND I don't think leftists yelling at AOC makes life more difficult for her - it helps her because she can say she's under pressure to demand even more.

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            That's true, the anger at AOC is probably good for AOC's negotiations. Because she would be absolutely flamed for voting for Pelosi for nothing