So I see a lot of people on Twitter being dumb about this whole thing Jimmy Dore said.

AOC included.

Her responses are cringe as fuck, but that's because the whole premise of both sides of the argument is fucking stupid.

So the issue is:

"Progressives" should withhold their vote for Pelosi unless she brings a floor vote to the house.

Alright, what the ever living hell is that?

Sorry, Jimmy Dore is an idiot.

He could have easily made this a "Stop Pelosi" push, but instead he said they should "support Pelosi if she gets a vote on Medicare for All"?

This has half the people saying "Yes! Do this" and the other half saying "Uhh, that seems dumb?"

Possible fix? Just outright block Pelosi with no conditions.

Take the Medicare for All issue off the table and suddenly the "uhh, that seems dumb?" people warm to the idea.

After all, both positions fail to clearly state that Pelosi under any circumstance is unacceptable in that position.

I'm going to try and contact Cori Bush's staff and talk with them about this idea, I feel like she might bite. If anybody else is a constituent of a "progressive" rep, I suggest you do the same.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wait I thought the point of an M4A vote is to skewer the mealy mouthed fucks who say "well health care is a human right" and other specifically cultivated Bernie lines that don't necessarily mean anything. You can just say "well you voted against medicare for all" every 5 minutes at them in any primary debate etc. It's not supposed to pass.

    Note though- I'm a bit out of the loop on the rest of this conversation right now

    • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      All the cosponsors can vote for it and it others will not. But we still wouldn't know if the cosponsors would actually vote for it if there is a sitation where there's a Senate and President ready to pass it.

      You can just say “well you voted against medicare for all” every 5 minutes at them in any primary debate etc

      What is that going to do against someone who is openly against M4A?

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It won't do as much, it's meant for the first group.

        But as the country leans harder and harder on M4A, it will be useful against people who lie later.