So I see a lot of people on Twitter being dumb about this whole thing Jimmy Dore said.

AOC included.

Her responses are cringe as fuck, but that's because the whole premise of both sides of the argument is fucking stupid.

So the issue is:

"Progressives" should withhold their vote for Pelosi unless she brings a floor vote to the house.

Alright, what the ever living hell is that?

Sorry, Jimmy Dore is an idiot.

He could have easily made this a "Stop Pelosi" push, but instead he said they should "support Pelosi if she gets a vote on Medicare for All"?

This has half the people saying "Yes! Do this" and the other half saying "Uhh, that seems dumb?"

Possible fix? Just outright block Pelosi with no conditions.

Take the Medicare for All issue off the table and suddenly the "uhh, that seems dumb?" people warm to the idea.

After all, both positions fail to clearly state that Pelosi under any circumstance is unacceptable in that position.

I'm going to try and contact Cori Bush's staff and talk with them about this idea, I feel like she might bite. If anybody else is a constituent of a "progressive" rep, I suggest you do the same.

  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    I mean sure you can push it to win, but Democrats have a 4 person majority in the House. If merely 5 Democrats vote no it's not passing. There are way more than 5 Democrats who are convinced that Dems did badly down ballot because of socialism. There were like 5 Dems who voted against marijuana decriminalization a few weeks ago. I'm not optimistic.

    I think it's too easy of a concession to ask of Pelosi. The co-sponsors can vote yes to avoid any future primary challenges ( and potentially flip later on) and Pelosi practically speaking gets to have nothing change.

    It would be good to have this actually debated on the floor and to get the ideas developed. But, practically speaking, no ones lives will be made better by it in the short term. My thinking is the other way around, if all the they push for is this vote and do nothing to change the power structures of the House then they're being too scared. It's rare for the Chairman of a Committee to be removed, so demanding that people be kicked off seems bolder to me. Perhaps my mind is poisoned.

    I the more important thing to engage in mass politics over would be Covid relief anyways

    I'll listen to the episode with Dore and Sirota later today