Pornhub Just Purged All Unverified Content From the Platform
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After changing its policies to ban unverified uploaders and Mastercard and Visa's decision to drop the platform entirely, Pornhub has removed millions of videos.

11.1 million (Out of about 14 million) to be more exact. Almost 80% of all their videos.

Isn’t my main porn site personally, but still pretty lame that all that amateur stuff is gone. Looks like it’s heading the way of Tumblr.

Just a reminder that Pornhub is worth nearly 3 billion dollars and easily could've afforded as big of a moderation team as they could've wanted lol.

Edit: Alright, this got dumber than I thought it would, so I'm leaving off with this:

I can't believe I have to say this, but it does not make someone a rapist or a pedophile to suggest that a multibillion dollar company, one responsible for a site where the public can upload things to it, can afford to have a moderation team.

Literally every site that allows public uploads. porn or otherwise, runs the risk of someone uploading something fucked up to it, that's why moderation teams exist in the first place. To find and remove such content.

Yes, it sucks ass that those mods would have to even glance at such things, but Pornhub is not some crazy unique special case here. Mods everywhere have to see fucked up shit before it can be removed to protect others.

Rule-breaking content has to verified that it is, indeed, breaking the rules. That's how moderation works.

I apologize for nothing.

Peace.

  • AStonedApe [they/them]
    2·
    4 years ago

    I wasn't talking about any specific sites, I just wondered if you think this strategy would benefit other sites, or only Pornhub?

    • Saint [he/him]
      3·
      4 years ago

      If there are other sites that have this problem then yes, probably. It's obviously always going to be a trade off- you can distribute illegal porn through the mail too but that doesn't mean we should ban the post.

      But I think this is veering off into whataboutery. Yes there's a million ways child porn can be distributed and we could argue the cost and benefit of each one. We'd probably disagree about some of them. But just because there exist examples which aren't clear cut doesn't mean pornhub isn't clear cut. You should be able to defend it on its own merits. And (other than wanting a magical omniscient moderation team), budoguy is making no attempt to do so.

      • AStonedApe [they/them]
        7·
        4 years ago

        Me asking you if this approach would benefit other sites is whatabouttery? Idk, seems like if you think this decision was materially benefitial to children then you'd advocate for it to be expanded to other sites. Is there a reason only Pornhub should do this, or ought we encourage other sites to follow suit?

        • Saint [he/him]
          2·
          4 years ago

          Did you read the rest of my comment? I think I made it pretty clear that there are some channels of distribution of child porn which I think would be worth the cost of closing and some I wouldn't. Other porn sites with a similar problem to pornhub, for example, I would support going to a verified user model. Whereas I wouldn't support banning email.

          What's your point exactly? We could probably have a long conversation and reason out exactly where I draw the line, but to what end? Are you willing to defend unverified content on pornhub on its own merits?

          • AStonedApe [they/them]
            6·
            4 years ago

            Are you willing to defend unverified content on pornhub on its own merits?

            Until I hear a convincing argument I don't really know what to think. That's why I'm asking you questions and trying to understand the reasoning more.

            I can't figure out why, if this decision is a good one, it shouldn't apply to YouTube or any other picture/video uploading sites as well.

            • Saint [he/him]
              2·
              4 years ago

              Okay, how much child porn is shared on YouTube?

              • AStonedApe [they/them]
                5·
                4 years ago

                Not sure. How much CP is required before we should be concerned?

                • Saint [he/him]
                  4·
                  4 years ago

                  Before we should be concerned? Any.

                  Before they should go to verified users only? I don't know where exactly to draw the line, which is why you're trying to push the argument to that, instead of discussing whether or not pornhub is on the wrong side of that line. It's the same tactic as a libertarian arguing that sex with a 13 year old is fine because you can't justify why the age of consent should be exactly 18 instead of 17 years and 11 months, and it's very transparent.

                  That's why I called it whataboutery. Pornhub obviously has a much worse problem with rape, child porn and revenge porn than YouTube. It also obviously has a much smaller impact of going to verified only than YouTube. No amount of sophistry is going to make that less obvious to you, me and everyone reading this.