11.1 million (Out of about 14 million) to be more exact. Almost 80% of all their videos.
Isn’t my main porn site personally, but still pretty lame that all that amateur stuff is gone. Looks like it’s heading the way of Tumblr.
Just a reminder that Pornhub is worth nearly 3 billion dollars and easily could've afforded as big of a moderation team as they could've wanted lol.
Edit: Alright, this got dumber than I thought it would, so I'm leaving off with this:
I can't believe I have to say this, but it does not make someone a rapist or a pedophile to suggest that a multibillion dollar company, one responsible for a site where the public can upload things to it, can afford to have a moderation team.
Literally every site that allows public uploads. porn or otherwise, runs the risk of someone uploading something fucked up to it, that's why moderation teams exist in the first place. To find and remove such content.
Yes, it sucks ass that those mods would have to even glance at such things, but Pornhub is not some crazy unique special case here. Mods everywhere have to see fucked up shit before it can be removed to protect others.
Rule-breaking content has to verified that it is, indeed, breaking the rules. That's how moderation works.
I apologize for nothing.
Peace.
Pour one out for the Slavoj Zizek/Jordan Peterson debate upload.
I have already blown out your back wall and sho on and sho forty, Dr. Peterson. The back walls of schniff ideology.
Literally no question that this is good. If you prioritize your diversity of jerk off material over the safety of sex workers and exploited people then honestly you should really do some thinking about yourself. Under no circumstances should a rape video or child porn be up on the internet for any amount of time at all, and leaving any wiggle room will always lead to bad outcomes.
I see the argument that they should just pay for better moderation but that means things will still fall through the cracks, questionable content will remain up. Under the old system, if there is a random amateur video of a young girl fucking an older guy and it's unclear whether she's 15 or 19 (and no you can't always tell), and you report it, they don't remove it until they can verify she isn't underage. They leave it up until they can find proof that she is underage. I stopped using pornhub because I reported a questionable video like this and saw the exact thing. They just left it up. A video that really looks like a 40 year old creep fucking a teenager and it was probably still up until now.
I'm sorry that you don't have as many videos to crank your hog to, but children and sex workers are more important. Full stop.
Under no circumstances should a rape video or child porn be up on the internet for any amount of time at all, and leaving any wiggle room will always lead to bad outcomes.
That's impossible to guarantee without massive government overreach.
What they could do is crack down on the porn industry. There has been cases where even the supposedly legally produced porn was actually assault.
A better solution is to legalize and regulate
That's what they have done.
So one of the examples of this was that a site lured out women with false promises and then the guy bullied them into and just straight up assaulted them.
I don't remember how much they knew going in, but that's still massively different than expectations even if they were agreeing to do porn.
Regulation doesn't handle that, this is another fucking way in which police fail us.
So one of the examples of this was that a site lured out women with false promises and then the guy bullied them into and just straight up assaulted them.
That was the disgusting GirlsDoPorn thing. However that somehow was a verified PornHub account, so unfortunately this new policy from PornHub would not have prevented that content from being uploaded. Still think the new policy is good though, and still can't believe that someone thought it was a good idea to allow anyone to just create an account and upload pornography without any verification.
It was. There's also been at least a couple stories about big male stars (in straight porn) who are total shitbags.
still can’t believe that someone thought it was a good idea to allow anyone to just create an account and upload pornography without any verification.
gotta get that money.
I'm saying the police are shitbags who can't even be trusted to arrest someone is regularly preying on young women.
It's the whole system top to bottom.
The fucking New York Post did that to a woman just yesterday. Bastards.
She's an emergency health care worker too. So gross.
Of course. It's pretty disheartening seeing people on a communist board acting like the site that's been hosting these things for years suddenly grew a conscience, and not that their bottom line was potentially going to be royally fucked if they didn't act in response to the credit card companies shutting them off.
Sure, great, the overall effect might be good, but these fuckers deserve as much credit as Hitler does for killing Hitler.
The sex industry is run by disgusting freaks that deserve the wall. That said, it is legitimately harm reduction to eliminate the vast majority of the CP and nonconsensual content.
Who's acting like they grew a conscience? We're saying it's good, not that it's done for selfless reasons.
The were multiple news articles from the wall Street journal, new York times, Washington post, etc about PornHub having rape videos, CP and revenge porn on their site.
Hopefully that'll get most of the illegal stuff (child porn, revenge porn, etc). But that does mean that all that will be left is porn company stuff, which is generally waaaaay more exploitative than consensual amateur porn
You can never really know though. Sometimes rape and coercion don't look like some brutal act and can look like normal sex. How can you tell from a video that the woman isn't having her passport held hostage or that someone isn't threatening to kick them out on the streets if they don't do it? You can't.
Oh hey there's a lot of comments in this thread I wonder what's-
:this-is-fine:
Damn, now where the hell am I supposed to go to be able to watch the entirety of Bee Movie for free?
Bee Movie But Every Time They Say "bee" It Speeds Up, But Every Time It Speeds Up I Slowed It Back Down [reupload]
it's okay, but the next best thing they can do is take down the rest of the videos and then take down the site
the government in 1984 had machine-generated pornographic literature, so im guessing the 1984 equivalent scenario would be taking down all videos and uploading a ton of robot sex
PH did nothing about it for years, people uploaded revenge porn and other shit and PH just slept. Fuck 'em.
Wasn't this because there was a bunch of stolen content, revenge porn, and cp being posted and barely anything was done about it? I would say this is probably a good thing, even though the damage has mostly been done and MindGeek's monopoly status has been more or less completely consolidated.
Accusing and spreading rumours about someone, usually calling them a federal agent, with no evidence to make people suspicious or uncomfortable. In the context of this post it could be calling someone a pedo because they disagree with you or something. I know it's Wikipedia, but this is a basic rundown
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad-jacketing
Sure, that stuff getting removed is good, but this Scorched Earth approach is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Eh, if anything more pro-worker and anti-sex abuse measures could be taken. I personally don't consider the enjoyment and utility of a porn website to it's users to weigh anywhere near as much as the safety and material benefit to the people that work for it.
Or they could've just actually put in the effort of, ya know, moderating their content.
But this is cheaper and easier, sooo...
Removing videos of children being raped and revenge porn is obviously worth the cost of you having fewer options to jack it to, how is this even a question? You holding up the idea of some sort of imaginary perfect moderation system is just a distraction
No it isn't.
Pornhub has far more than enough money to do so, it's a valid criticism.
You're acting like literally half their videos were child/revenge/etc. porn, when in reality an average moderation team likely would've taken care of the problem and it wouldn't have gotten to this point in the first place.
Yeah, there has been multiple stories over the years about the reviewers for google.
It's fucking awful. You see the worst shit imaginable constantly. People burn out and end up with PTSD.
What should ChapoChat do to prevent CP from being uploaded? Maybe we should follow Pornhub's lead and ban non-verified users from uploading pictures/videos.
I'll ask you the same question:
Technically child porn can be uploaded to Youtube too.
Should all videos from unverified users be taken down from there as well?
Explain to me how long it's acceptable for a video of a teenager being raped to be on pornhub and how a moderation team would have prevented it from being up that long
Okay, you're clearly acting in bad faith with this loaded question bullshit lol.
It would've been taken down once it was noticed/pointed out as opposed to staying up for way longer til' their company exploded, how about that?
Yeah let's make a bunch of underpaid workers spend hours a day watching weird pornography to try and decide what laws it breaks. A very moral position you've found there.
i offer critical support for pornhub.
nah, they are doing this because of bad press.
Still profit off things that should unquestionably be illegal.
I knew what you meant (and wasn't criticizing you, you're not wrong at all) I'm just saying even this is entirely self-serving. They have known about the problem for years and refused to do anything meaningful about it.
This is the worst sort of capitalist whitewashing.
I clicked out of this thread and only came back because you replied.
I also want no part of a porn struggle session.
They’re doing this because every major credit card company banned them, not because of PR.
Agree they still haven’t earned critical support.
You can still be amateur and verified dude. Just look at r/gonewild. And verified also does not mean ethical. Girlsdoporn was verified until the FBI shut them down.
The thing is amateur content is still allowed, you just need to verify a account (which most creators do anyway). This is a ban on unverified accounts uploading content to the website. Oviously PornHub don't care at all about ethics, this was done because pretty much all the credit card companies agreed to stop doing business with PornHub. As an added bonus for them it makes it much easier to control piracy if only verified accounts can upload videos.
