Ralph Nader didn't have to and he's the most successful american politician in terms of policy he passed and the amount of people he help through lawmaking.
EPA, Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, seatbelts. Believe in electoralism, get dunked. lenin.jpg
Nader's activism successes occurred before neoliberalism took root in both parties, he never held an elected office, and he ate shit in every presidential race he ran.
Nader has undeniable policy achievements that helped you and me, our parents and our kids.
Bernie after 40 years in politics barely had any other than some inconsequential dissenting votes on the losing side (Iraq) and piling in on the wrong side of history (Kosovo war, Crime bill).
Maybe you should consider activism and direct action instead of electoralism
Activism has never achieved anything close to socialism in any context. It's good, it can do real things, but like any approach it has limits. We're not going to do impact litigation or awareness campaigns and get worker ownership of the means of production.
Bernie is largely the reason Medicare for All and socialism are mainstream political topics, which is a prerequisite to actually making them happen.
Sure Lenin was not an activist at all. He was just a lawmaker in the Russian Empire, got elected and passed a law to kindly ask the Russian royal family to step down. Sure, activism has never achieved anything close to socialism, yet every revolution in history ever started by activists.
Stop strawmanning. You said that activism has never achieved anything close to socialism. Lenin showed that activism can. Both Lenin and Nader use activism to be the change they wanted in the world. Bernie used electoralism, played politics and get btfo
the fact that this is downvoted when the "activism" in question is NADER, who is then immediately being compared to LENIN really goes to show that some chapos have reading comprehension skills on par with the average pre-k student.
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Ralph Nader didn't have to and he's the most successful american politician in terms of policy he passed and the amount of people he help through lawmaking. EPA, Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, seatbelts. Believe in electoralism, get dunked. lenin.jpg
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Nader's activism successes occurred before neoliberalism took root in both parties, he never held an elected office, and he ate shit in every presidential race he ran.
Nader has undeniable policy achievements that helped you and me, our parents and our kids.
Bernie after 40 years in politics barely had any other than some inconsequential dissenting votes on the losing side (Iraq) and piling in on the wrong side of history (Kosovo war, Crime bill).
Maybe you should consider activism and direct action instead of electoralism
Activism has never achieved anything close to socialism in any context. It's good, it can do real things, but like any approach it has limits. We're not going to do impact litigation or awareness campaigns and get worker ownership of the means of production.
Bernie is largely the reason Medicare for All and socialism are mainstream political topics, which is a prerequisite to actually making them happen.
Sure Lenin was not an activist at all. He was just a lawmaker in the Russian Empire, got elected and passed a law to kindly ask the Russian royal family to step down. Sure, activism has never achieved anything close to socialism, yet every revolution in history ever started by activists.
Comparing Ralph Nader to Lenin? In my chapo dot chat?
Get the fuck out of town
What happened to activism never achieved anything eh>
Ralph Nader is not Lenin. Someone needs to log off for a while
Stop strawmanning. You said that activism has never achieved anything close to socialism. Lenin showed that activism can. Both Lenin and Nader use activism to be the change they wanted in the world. Bernie used electoralism, played politics and get btfo
nader isn’t lenin log off
the fact that this is downvoted when the "activism" in question is NADER, who is then immediately being compared to LENIN really goes to show that some chapos have reading comprehension skills on par with the average pre-k student.
learn to context you fucking noodles