• opposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Yes but China disproportionately has minority groups doing this kind of work.

      Oh wait no that’s also the US

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
          ·
          4 years ago

          We Chinese are apparently simultaneously genocidal and really bad at genocide, which I find boubly offensive.

        • qublics [they/them,she/her]
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          edit-2
          4 years ago
          [TW: this could piss people off, don't read if you have anger issues, and if do read then please read entire comment]

          I swear to god there is going to be articles eventually about how not imposing one-child policy (that people often don't realize means grandparents also have only one grandchild) is really just about breeding more slaves.
          I need to go wash my brain just for thinking that.

          This comment brought to you by veganism. :deeper-sadness:

          That legit happened with the slave trade though, and even today but less overtly with opposing access to birth control for workers.

          Goes without saying that in Xinjiang people have ample access to family planning.
          But then Adrian Zenz obviously likes to spin this as forced sterilization: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

          tl;dr: China good.

          • qublics [they/them,she/her]
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            4 years ago
            veganism tangent, long post, slightly off topic

            China is still so bad on animal rights issues though, specifically the scale of chicken farming, that is the only issue where I have severe cognitive dissonance about supporting the CCP.
            https://ourworldindata.org/meat-production

            just uuuuuggghhhhh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOGm3mRZuaI
            I know this is dark as fuck but I hope they are genetically engineering or breeding for more brain-dead and senseless chickens or something.
            Or vibrating the cages so chickens are cumming all the time. lmao. Have you ever read a comment so utilitarianism-pilled? >_<

            I do remember they were doing genetic engineering with pigs for whatever reason, but have not looked into that in years.

            their propaganda is on point though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjYLYulALs
            And their deliberate use of birds against insect pests is really cool.
            At least they learned from that whole sparrow thing.

            https://www.dw.com/en/china-says-sending-locust-eating-duck-army-to-pakistan-actually-not-the-best-idea/a-52559122
            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8356921/China-trains-army-of-messenger-pigeons.html

            support PETA Asia please, their work is extremely important.
            https://www.petaasia.cn/features/joaquin_phoenix_change_the_world_from_kichen_vegan_peta_ad

            I do not honestly believe factory farms in China are much better.
            I certainly would like to, but even good examples cannot prove that more/most/all of them are.
            Humans can often report being abused, but animals cannot.

            various EU countries have been pushing towards continuous surveillance in animal farming.
            it would not be good for China to get left behind on these issues.

            just look at the extent to which animal rights got involved with Brexit politics:
            https://www.fastcompany.com/90543095/american-chickens-covered-in-chlorine-have-become-a-hot-button-brexit-issue-in-britain

            Further tangent...
            This is a weird idea, but I wonder if trance music and disco lights would have any effect on chicken well-being.
            Raising chickens for food has an odd contradiction: more movement burns calories, but also improves muscles and meat quality.
            I just hope China is investing the massive amount of money into meat replacement R&D that the problem deserves.

            Things are moving at least:
            https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-09-14/China-s-alternative-meat-market-finds-new-suppliers-TLR1kYGS64/index.html

            What people seem to forget about meat replacements though, and basically all advanced replacement foods, is they can optimize for taste, satiety, and nutrition in ways that are incredibly difficult with animal products.
            Under capitalism they just end up optimizing for profit and addictiveness instead. Processed and fast-foods are not bad, it just depends on who is designing them and to what ends.

            (to any Chinese comrades, sorry if 'they' is kinda othering/western but don't want to take credit for anything I am not responsible for; maybe China should declare a national neopronoun, lmao what could go wrong?)

            (I've linked this thread on /c/vegan (https://hexbear.net/post/61429/comment/618372), so for anyone that wants to reply / debate in detail maybe there instead)