For me it was Guardians of the Galaxy. I had only seen The Avengers and liked it at the time, and I was hyped for this new weird space movie. But all I got was The Avengers in space and it sucked.
For me it was Guardians of the Galaxy. I had only seen The Avengers and liked it at the time, and I was hyped for this new weird space movie. But all I got was The Avengers in space and it sucked.
If I'm being honest I still enjoy the MCU in a lot of ways. If nothing else it really is a pretty insane achievement of production logistics the likes of which would have been inconceivable decades ago...but after the first Avenger film and the subtle shift to action comedy I distinctly remembered having a conversation with some friends that I find it a bit unnerving how good disney's marvel algorithm is that they can basically make the same movie again and again and still have it be entertaining and emotionally engaging even if you are aware of said algorithm playing out.
Its like that performance adjustment and blending software tech I saw on youtube a few years ago. Hard to argue with the results...but just the knowledge that you're seeing some form of automated and augmented reality on something as basic as an actors face is....a bit terrifying in its artificialness.
All that being sad: I do think the MCU and the rise of superhero media general will not and probably should not be looked back on kindly by history due to how intractable it is from 9/11 and the rise of hypermilitarism. I still think its funny that people shit on "GI JOE" for basically being "Team America: World Police" played straight...but can't see that's also exactly what all the Avenger films are.
Sidenote: seriously though fuck Zack Snyder. The DCEU could have at least attempted to be some kind of antithesis to all this but he's an even more hypermasculine obsessed manchild then I was at my cringiest of comic nerd cringe. The fact that people still defend his adaptation of watchmen is mind blowing to me.
His adaptation is great, in the sense it was the exact opposite of what Moore was trying to say. It's like Marx filtered through Elon Musk, wrong, completely ass backwards, and somehow popular.
I'm going to personally seize the means of production
after the first couple of DCEU failed, i thought the perfect solution was to just give the IP to whoever wanted to make a cool, stand alone movie. Remember they gave Batman to Tim Burton back in the day? Make the Red Son superman movie, or a black and white batman steampunk, or just a play it straight, but don't worry about the DCEU (basically the first wonder woman).
Genuine Q- I read and saw Watchmen and apart from squid I can't remember any differences. What do you think were the issues of his adaptation?
As an adaptation Watchmen is actually a good study in how subtext and framming can make a huge difference in execution. On the surface the screenplay follows the comic to a T (ending deviations aside) but when filtered through 'snyder-vision' it comes out reading very different.
The entire core them of Watchmen is to dissect and critique superheroes and show how they would be in the real world...but everything about how Zack Snyder approaches the cinematography, lighting, and choreography from fight scenes to even simple dialogue leans more into the hyper stylized comic book visuals of something like sin city. It'd be like if Full Metal Jacket was directed by an MCU director or something. Yeah there's action and even comedy.....but you're waaaaay off the mark. Basically a guarantee that Snyder thinks Rorschach is the hero of the story.
The Dark Knight and The Boys are both much better adaptations at least spiritually of Watchmen then anything Zack Snyder has been a part of.
that's interesting. So you're suggesting tone is the issue rather than anything Snyder and script added. I guess that's true. Rorschach did seem pretty cool to me when I first watched it. I can see what you mean but I think presenting the story mostly as is kinda prevents me from going too hard against the movie. But yeah his filmography post clearly shows he may not have fully 'gotten' what he was adapting.