In fact, their job is almost more like a cop.
only if they snitch on shoplifters
fmr cashier here and tru tru aint no snitch. actually i've literally given people free coffees we don't give a shit about the shrink ratio lmfao
When I cashiered I discounted so much shit just bc I could lmao, cause like if someone was trying to hide something so it wouldn't get scanned but they could still be caught so I'd scan it and then just give a ton of discounts and it wouldn't matter in the end
I'm in awe of this, how do you view individual cashiers as being in control of keeping commodities away from people? How do you wind up posting on a socialism subreddit with such a narrow-minded, individualistic world view?
it's Socialism101, which I think should give them a free pass to ask very dumb questions, as long as they're willing to get dunked on and learn.
They get a pass, no question, but here on chapo for chat I'm gonna be scratching my head at thinking cashiers are the reason we don't have free food while dabbling in socialism
I hate seeing people like that have a good question but then fuck it up in the explanation.
I was asking about this the other week on here. Cashiers/supermarket employees and if they produce value since they are essentially the final end of the process of creating said commodity and getting it to consumers. They are necessary in the centralized distribution process we have in terms of supermarkets or wherever you can get majority of things you need. So without them people can not technically buy anything as nothing is available for purchase.
Right right. I just meant I was struggling to find where and what value is produced by them, and how they are necessary labor in the process.
So if I work at a supermarket stocking groceries all night, the value I am producing comes from the consumers ability to purchase it, as the final step in process? At what point does that labor become surplus and stolen from me? I think that is what I mean. You’re absolutely correct about the relationship between the proletariat and having to sell labor (power?) and your explanation helped clear other questions I had too so thank you for that comrade.
Yeah I know. I’m just getting into details I guess. If I make 13 and hour, then as soon as I put more than $13 worth of goods on the shelf within that hour, I am being exploited for my surplus labor. I was trying to figure out if my value comes from the $ value of the item I stock, or what my labor adds to that $ value.
I’m sorry I might be wording this very very badly
Yeah I know I’m mixing up some of the points, it’s difficult to think some of this stuff through especially with how abstract things can be.
The price of a commodity at a store is reflected in the total amount of (necessary) labor to get it to that point on the shelf. The end being the customer buying said commodity. I might be trying to calculate to specifically the value someone like myself adds to a product, even though it is necessary labor to the extent it has not been automated, and the centralized distribution of a supermarket prevents people from needing to go to several locations to get their stuff.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh okay okay. That makes a lot more sense now. I was definitely looking too specifically rather can keeping it as more as abstract model like you said.
I was thinking that those values and equations can be used to specifically identify types of values being sold or what amount of surplus labor is being extracted. I really appreciate the replies
It appears my master machinations have finally been revealed! For you see, Mr. Chapo, while you foolishly thought I was merely stocking shelves and scanning barcodes, I was - in fact - policing the bread isle! Gaurding baby formula from the grubby hands of the unwashed masses!
You are so quick to say 'Defund the Police', Mr. Chapo, you failed to consider the policeman at the front of your checkout line! Yes, it is I, GORKA! Binding my time, rising to the rank of Cheif Constable Cashier of the dark order that is even now rising to power in groceries across this nation!
Now, I have but one question for you, my dear Mr. Chapo. One question: Cash or credit?
Cash or credit, Mr. Chapo? The. Choice. Is. Yours.
Certainly not in the embrace of a slender, smooth skinned Hungarian man, if that's what you're implying Mr. Chapo. The pleasures of Gorka run far deeper than that of meer flesh, as I'm sure you well know.
