Why Socialist Alternative Members are Joining DSA
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Looks like Socialist Alternative is going to try to make DSA form a workers party by having some of it's members join DSA.

Current DSA by-laws allow for chapters to expel members for being in Democratic Centralist organizations but its not automatic. It also seems like SAlt isn't telling their members to join en-masse, just a few to push for a new workers party at meetings.

My DSA chapter isn't happy about this but it seems like most apprehension seems to be from their experience with individual SAlt members, first and the rudeness of the tactic, second. But there seems to be little consideration of their goals.

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      we're going to end up like terf island and have about 20 different trot parties

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        We already do, they're just going to try to take over the remaining good organizations and break them into a thousand pieces like they always do

        • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          If your 80,000+ person socialist org implodes when a few dozen Trotskyists join, maybe the problem wasn’t the few dozen Trotskyists.

          • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            ha we probably already got more trots in DSA than all other trot parties in the us combined

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            This is the weakness of the DSA, though SAlt has way more members than a few dozen. It's probably the third largest socialist org in the country after PSL

            • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              “Socialist Alternative members are not planning to join DSA “en masse,” ... Instead, a few dozen Socialist Alternative members will be joining DSA across the country to work together to build the socialist movement.”

              • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Damn I trust the word of Trotskyists who have done nothing but make is look like fucking fools for the past couple years when they talk about doing entryism.

                Seriously, this is a thing that trots always do, it's how they fracture organizations into tiny little pieces.

    • captcha [any]
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      4 years ago

      Honestly they should just do entryism to the green party and then try to recruit our independent candidates from there. I don't even think the greens would be mad.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They should just stop doing dumb shit that everyone knows won't work. Like building a workers party sounds great, but they just have to do entryism to get there lol. They really can't help themselves. They had their moment with getting Kshama Sawant elected but since then they've just made the left look stupid.

        • gammison [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          The idea of building a party on an independent ticket is also just not in the cards right now with the way US elections work. State legislatures control who can run on what party ticket, not the parties.