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      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Can someone explain to me the ramifications of these sanctions? I know that in theory they hurt the working class, but from what I've seen it's made the affacted goods cheaper. I imagine that it's hurt businesses but can someone explain how this hurts the majority of working class people?

    • longhorn617 [any]
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      If the restaurant owner down the street is a racist to you and accuses you personally of knowingly and intentionally giving other people COVID, are you going to keep buying food from him because his poor daughter needs braces?

      Yeah but the Australian state is run by neoliberal assholes who aren’t going to do shit, and I don’t care about who’s fault it is that working people are going to suffer, I’d just rather it didn’t have to happen.

      Well, this is China telling you to not elect the neoliberal asshole who is going to say they did COVID, because you did have that as an option in 2019.

      Maybe so, but is this necessarily a good thing? Don’t want to sound like a lib, but I don’t like the idea of big countries pushing smaller countries around; I hate it when the US does it, and I’m not too fond of it when China does it either

      Australia isn't a small country or a victim, and you aren't being oppressed because China decided to not buy your goods. They aren't under any obligation to buy your goods.

        • longhorn617 [any]
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          Believe me I don’t vote for them, but very few people in Australia know much outside of the liberal/conservative politics spectrum, and as I’ve already said, Australian people trust the media because and you would too if you hadn’t been radicalized, it isn’t the common sense position that the media bias against china is based in corporate interest, most people don’t have access to these ideas, please stop acting like actors in a bourgeois democracy are a reflection of the people who elect them

          When I said "you", I didn't mean you personally, I mean Australian citizens collectively.

          but very few people in Australia know much outside of the liberal/conservative politics spectrum, and as I’ve already said, Australian people trust the media because and you would too if you hadn’t been radicalized, it isn’t the common sense position that the media bias against china is based in corporate interest, most people don’t have access to these ideas

          That's Australia's problem, not China's.

          please stop acting like actors in a bourgeois democracy are a reflection of the people who elect them

          They are a reflection of the people who elect them. You chose them. The same way Joe Biden and Donald Trump are reflections of the American populace.