It means that a strategy that is wrong can still provide some temporary benefit to people, even if it's wrong in a grand scale. Securing better working conditions, wages, benefits etc can be much more permanent than something that's just running at a wall after a little while.
You sound like someone who has never been involved in a labor struggle. Securing better working conditions, wages, benefits are no more or less permanent than delaying automation.
You sound like someone who has never been involved in a labor struggle.
Piss off dude, you know nothing about me.
Securing better working conditions, wages, benefits are no more or less permanent than delaying automation.
They are though. Because when you secure a raise, then next time they try to bring it down, you're already starting from a better point, whereas with automation it's just complete defeat when it inevitably turns around.
Overall my issue isn't with certain unions trying to fight against it temporarily, as I explained that can be good. My issue is with presenting it as an overall direction that people should follow rather than just something unions in particular industries can temporarily use to gain some benefits for their workers.
when you secure a raise, then next time they try to bring it down, you’re already starting from a better point
When you secure a wage, inflation erases those gains by the time the next contract is being negotiated.
Overall my issue isn’t with certain unions trying to fight against it temporarily, as I explained that can be good. My issue is with presenting it as an overall direction that people should follow
Why should people who consider themselves friends of labor stay silent on the primary issue majors unions (ATU, Teamsters, etc.) are fighting for? That makes absolutely zero sense.
I'm going to support teachers unions demanding smaller class sizes. I'm going to support truckers unions fighting against automation.
Why should people who consider themselves friends of labor stay silent on the primary issue majors unions (ATU, Teamsters, etc.) are fighting for? That makes absolutely zero sense.
That's the primary issue US unions are fighting for???
Department of Transportation and industry leaders are projecting that the busing & trucking industries can be fully automated by the early 2030's.
The struggle against automation is existential to unions in these industries.
Local contract negotiations only bring up automation when it is forced onto them. Negotiations are still mostly bread and butter. The national unions are focusing primarily on automation right now as a political project, since it is their biggest threat.
It means that a strategy that is wrong can still provide some temporary benefit to people, even if it's wrong in a grand scale. Securing better working conditions, wages, benefits etc can be much more permanent than something that's just running at a wall after a little while.
You sound like someone who has never been involved in a labor struggle. Securing better working conditions, wages, benefits are no more or less permanent than delaying automation.
Piss off dude, you know nothing about me.
They are though. Because when you secure a raise, then next time they try to bring it down, you're already starting from a better point, whereas with automation it's just complete defeat when it inevitably turns around.
Overall my issue isn't with certain unions trying to fight against it temporarily, as I explained that can be good. My issue is with presenting it as an overall direction that people should follow rather than just something unions in particular industries can temporarily use to gain some benefits for their workers.
When you secure a wage, inflation erases those gains by the time the next contract is being negotiated.
Why should people who consider themselves friends of labor stay silent on the primary issue majors unions (ATU, Teamsters, etc.) are fighting for? That makes absolutely zero sense.
I'm going to support teachers unions demanding smaller class sizes. I'm going to support truckers unions fighting against automation.
That's the primary issue US unions are fighting for???
Department of Transportation and industry leaders are projecting that the busing & trucking industries can be fully automated by the early 2030's.
The struggle against automation is existential to unions in these industries.
Local contract negotiations only bring up automation when it is forced onto them. Negotiations are still mostly bread and butter. The national unions are focusing primarily on automation right now as a political project, since it is their biggest threat.