I always feel like I'm hanging out in a punk/hardcore music scene (various anarchist groups, psl to some extent) or with lame improv nerds (dsa). I don't see either of these groups connecting with very many working class people. This is obviously a huge problem but (at least where I am) there is very little attempt to organize or recruit people making minimum wage, fast food workers, service industry, manual laborers etc. I mean shouldn't this be the main priority right now? I don't know I'm just venting but I'm baffled by how bad at organizing these groups are. Do they really just like being this cliquey group that is hard to get into and that's what really matters?

    • captcha [any]
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      4 years ago

      ideally the makeup would be closer to a church

      As much as it spooks me that is correct. You organization should be family friendly to an almost dorky extent but serious in its objective. Leave the punk attitudes and irony poisoning at the door.

      You need to be able to share your pain, feel someone else's pain, and set that pain ablaze is just rage. You will feel a distinct sensation when this happens. Christians say it is "being filled with the holy spirit" and are fairly adept at invoking it. You need that spirit for revolution. That's why collectivos are primarily poor mothers. That's why Che says "the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love".

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        You're stance on how the spaces should be more inclusive is literally how my local punk scene is. Many of the shows are all ages, but they never get enough of a draw for vendors outside of the band merch table to bother setting up. A lot of the people are sincere, most of the time the insincerity comes from newer members to the scene. But really, the weakness is there just isn't enough people to care enough to participate. I feel like it's always the same 20 people, and half of them are from out of town :(

        God i fucking miss punk shows.

    • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I don't even have a problem with the people really, I just wish there was way more emphasis on organizing outside of these cliques. Just some strategy to grow these groups within the mass working class. But from what I've seen this isn't a priority.