• Nuttula [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        China isn’t a utopia, it’s a successful anti-imperialist project going through many struggles and sometimes backtracking on what we would perceive as progress. It’s an entire, complex country with a culture very different from the one in which you were probably raised and with different priorities and customs. If you lived there, you’d probably want to be a reformist just like you likely are here, just no longer in the imperial core.

        This is for the most part true. But I should note that China is improving in almost every area not just material conditions.

        When you compare to the US it is true being middle class in the US is still better than living in China, but that is the situation currently. The US in decline and everyone should expect that to accelerate, while China is rising and improving and the worst thing it could happen is a slowdown in economic development due to the global economic situation.

        Ultimately there is also climate change. China will definitely try to mitigate it sooner while the US will suffer major catastrophies untill anything gets done. And we know history, look at Katrina, look at Puerto Rico and Hurricane Maria.

        Of course climate change will affect everyone including China, there is no guarantee China will be particularly competent in mitigating it, but if there is any assurance to be made is that it seems they'll almost certainly take it seriously and that matters to everyone younger than a boomer.

      • anthm17 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        it’s a successful anti-imperialist project

        You just spelled out why it isn't.

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            Is an obsession with personal and familial wealth reactionary?

            Yes, and there is no justification for it whatsoever.

            Xi is worth a fucking fortune and had family in the panama papers. Billionaires everywhere.

            It's capitalism. It's nicer capitalism, but it's just capitalism.

            • CEO_of_TrainGang [he/him]
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              You can call it whatever you want but the policies of the CPC have been objectively good for the people of China and the 80%+ approval rate shows it

              The party makes no claims of having achieved socialism, so to point out that they’re “capitalist” literally means nothing, all I said was that their policies have been successful, both generally and it terms of resisting US hegemony, and that’s undeniably true

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                all I said was that their policies have been successful

                Yeah capitalism works until it eats you.

    • join_the_iww [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      China would probably stop the trend towards drug legalization though

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        After the way the UK exploited Opium addition, who could blame them?

        The big difference between the Chinese and the Americans is that the Sacklers haven't been executed yet.

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          After the way the UK exploited Opium addition, who could blame them?

          It's bad reactionary policy you shouldn't make excuses for.

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            4 years ago

            It's a serious health concern, particularly for harder, more addictive, and more debilitating substances.

            For the same reason the state has a role in regulating away lead in gasoline and paint or shoving those fucking Sacklers and everyone that facilitated their pain-pill scam in an Oubliette for all eternity, we have a reason to prohibit the commoditization of narcotics, especially toward malicious ends.

            Like, is there any industry more reflective of the horrors of capitalism than the tobacco industry? Fuck cigarettes. Fuck the merchants of death that propagate them. And fuck anyone who leaps to their defense.

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              It’s a serious health concern, particularly for harder, more addictive, and more debilitating substances.

              Fuckoff DEA.