Not to mention that if the last election cycle was any indication, being unequivocally against m4a isn't a deal breaker or even a problem for the majority of the democratic voter base
I can't think of anything more inspiring to the base than two defeats of M4A, once in the primary and again in Congress, in 12 month period. Surely no one will become dejected and check out of politics after that.
At the same time surely never fighting for anything because everything is unpragmatic and electoralism is engineered to make you lose all the time wont ever make people dejected and check out of politics.
My argument isn't "never fight for anything". This is another bad faith argument I have seen from supporters of #ForceTheVote who don't want to acknowledge legitmate criticism of trading what power AOC and company may actually hold for a meaningless vote that everyone has admitted will fail. What I am saying is that getting something like powerful committee positions out of it is actually a good deal, unlike an M4A floor vote, and unless such a deal can be struck, they just shouldn't vote for Nancy Pelosi. You don't trade in your power for an empty gesture. We aren't going to get a M4A by doing a floor vote, we are going to get it by organized action outside of electoral politics that forces the hands of Congress. This campaign isn't going to do that. The left needs to look powerful and get people to believe in it, and losing on M4A again this year isn't going to do that. We need to build the organization, then have the fight, not have the fight then build the organization. We keep jumping to the end, it reminds me of seeing people tweet about an general strike on Twitter. It honestly gives me cargo cult vibes.
Not to mention that if the last election cycle was any indication, being unequivocally against m4a isn't a deal breaker or even a problem for the majority of the democratic voter base
I can't think of anything more inspiring to the base than two defeats of M4A, once in the primary and again in Congress, in 12 month period. Surely no one will become dejected and check out of politics after that.
At the same time surely never fighting for anything because everything is unpragmatic and electoralism is engineered to make you lose all the time wont ever make people dejected and check out of politics.
My argument isn't "never fight for anything". This is another bad faith argument I have seen from supporters of #ForceTheVote who don't want to acknowledge legitmate criticism of trading what power AOC and company may actually hold for a meaningless vote that everyone has admitted will fail. What I am saying is that getting something like powerful committee positions out of it is actually a good deal, unlike an M4A floor vote, and unless such a deal can be struck, they just shouldn't vote for Nancy Pelosi. You don't trade in your power for an empty gesture. We aren't going to get a M4A by doing a floor vote, we are going to get it by organized action outside of electoral politics that forces the hands of Congress. This campaign isn't going to do that. The left needs to look powerful and get people to believe in it, and losing on M4A again this year isn't going to do that. We need to build the organization, then have the fight, not have the fight then build the organization. We keep jumping to the end, it reminds me of seeing people tweet about an general strike on Twitter. It honestly gives me cargo cult vibes.