If you are a "socialist" operating within the system by participating in electoralism, your job as an elected representative are two fold: heighten the contradictions in the political sphere; throw a monkey wrench in the normal day to day activities of the imperialist death machine. That's it, it's really not that difficult. You show up to congress, say you got elected to pass m4a or vote no on ICE funding, vote down imperialist wars, vote down bank bail outs. Your votes will be lonely and will probably have zero effect in the grand scheme of things, but that's the point. A socialist representative, even a squad of them, is functionally weak and incapable of bringing about proper change.

By advocating exactly for the things the working class supports (healthcare pls), showing solidarity with the international proletariat (no wars pls), and trying to give power to the workers (union protections, higher minimum wage) and you fail, time after time, you fail to get any meaningful support from your colleages; you are demonstrating to the working class that this system is not for YOU. You are trying to get them to wake up and realize the system is fundamentally at odds with THEM.

Failure to do this each and every step of the way is opportunism of the highest order. Refusing to stand up for your own demands, and asking to get votes on healthcare, larger stimulus checks, and better working conditions for the working class, is a failure.

I don't know what is in the water on DC, or if it just takes a certain kind of fucking brainworms to even run for congress, let alone win; but goddamn the whole process of slowly "justificating" the process of siding with Pelosi and Schumer on the procedural votes; the idea of not holding Pelosi's entire leadership position hostage is asinine. Nobody cares if you are a latinx congresswoman from the bronx if you don't pass anything fucking meaningful, or "politically" die trying.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    Someone explain to me the difference between forcing a M4A floor vote that won't pass and forcing an impeachment vote that won't pass.

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        Pretty sure the reason for not caring was that it had no chance of passing.

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    • Jorick [he/him]
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      They can pass it. They have a majority, it's just a matter of compromising with the left wing of their decrepit fucking party. Their majority in the house is very, very light, and socialists/Progressives could torpedo democrat laws if they wanted to. This tactic worked for the republicans, why wouldn't it work there ?

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      If every time leftists have leverage they force an unsuccessful vote for M4A instead of using it in some other tactical way they won't ever have significant power. That's the reasoning.

      If you think that electoralism is completely pointless then you don't find that argument convincing. If you think electoralism can be usefull as a means to garner popularity and influence policy until we get to revolution, then you probably don't like what Jimmy Dore is doing.

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          The best way to do it is by primarying centrists and then getting into positions of influence within congress. Centrists aren't going to vote for it no matter how many times you bring it to the floor.