People's Temple wasn't isolated at first though. They were a powerful political organizing force within the larger Bay Area
the People's Temple were forced into a corner after the late 1960s crackdown on leftist causes and fully racially integrated political projects. People's Temple was after-all highly integrated & multi-generational
What does this have to do with theory, his version of... Whatever the fuck you could call it was extremely confused nonsense, melding together socialism, antiracism, new age crap, religious death cult bullshit, and tons of drugs. It was sheer manipulation.
I agree with that. I just don't agree that Jonestown had something to do with the "most toxic parts of read theory", that could be, idk, the Shining Path or something. Jonestown was the opposite of that, they didn't even attempt to have any kind of coherence or theoretical understanding, because Jones didn't care about that, he just wanted to manipulate people and he just made shit up on the fly. The Shining Path of Peru is an actual example of a marxist professor who practically set up a cult supported by an extremely dogmatic, sectarian, divorced from reality and incorrect perspective of theory. But Jonestown was completely different, it is more theory, not less, that would be antithetical to its existence.
"At the same time, Jones and his church earned a reputation for aiding the cities' poorest citizens, especially racial minorities, drug addicts, and the homeless. The Temple made strong connections to the California state welfare system.[42] During the 1970s, the church owned and ran at least nine residential care homes for the elderly, six homes for foster children, and a state-licensed 40-acre (160,000 m2) ranch for developmentally disabled persons.[43]"
groups like this don't attract loyal followings without at least attempting to accomplish objectively moral things.
we can say that there were many in government & big business who wanted to see it fail, and probably had a hand in it spiraling into the situation it did.
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People's Temple wasn't isolated at first though. They were a powerful political organizing force within the larger Bay Area
the People's Temple were forced into a corner after the late 1960s crackdown on leftist causes and fully racially integrated political projects. People's Temple was after-all highly integrated & multi-generational
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Yeah there's a Depeche Mode song.
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y'all do a great job of this, not just sucking mod meat
edit: i reconsidered and actually i might be
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Nonono, very bad take, we should just scream Read Lenin at everyone we meet.
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What does this have to do with theory, his version of... Whatever the fuck you could call it was extremely confused nonsense, melding together socialism, antiracism, new age crap, religious death cult bullshit, and tons of drugs. It was sheer manipulation.
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I agree with that. I just don't agree that Jonestown had something to do with the "most toxic parts of read theory", that could be, idk, the Shining Path or something. Jonestown was the opposite of that, they didn't even attempt to have any kind of coherence or theoretical understanding, because Jones didn't care about that, he just wanted to manipulate people and he just made shit up on the fly. The Shining Path of Peru is an actual example of a marxist professor who practically set up a cult supported by an extremely dogmatic, sectarian, divorced from reality and incorrect perspective of theory. But Jonestown was completely different, it is more theory, not less, that would be antithetical to its existence.
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"At the same time, Jones and his church earned a reputation for aiding the cities' poorest citizens, especially racial minorities, drug addicts, and the homeless. The Temple made strong connections to the California state welfare system.[42] During the 1970s, the church owned and ran at least nine residential care homes for the elderly, six homes for foster children, and a state-licensed 40-acre (160,000 m2) ranch for developmentally disabled persons.[43]"
groups like this don't attract loyal followings without at least attempting to accomplish objectively moral things.
we can say that there were many in government & big business who wanted to see it fail, and probably had a hand in it spiraling into the situation it did.
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