I like IPAs and I'm secure enough to not be bothered by the mockery my basic brothers and I face online.
What if my enjoyement is making fun of basic white dudes drinking IPA's?
as the small brewery industry developed I went from "fuck IPAs" to "hit me in the face with another pinecone please" and I'm not sorry
Food has a cultural component tied to its manufacture and identification. And IPAs are food that probably shouldn't exist and which only does as a byproduct of market capitalism. They're the Lacanian 'object a' - an empty, manufactured falseness. We don't desire the thing itself, but the thing whose absence it symbolizes. What you're really consuming when you drink an IPA is its innate mechanical predictability.
(Thanks to the thread last week arguing about pumpkin spice lattes for giving me a new copypasta to use about anything I personally dislike.)
drinking anything other than vodka
How can you call yourself a true communist?
For real. All other liquors are bourgeoise decadence.
All you need is the smoothly burning taste of Slavic tap water to have a good time.
Exactly. You want hard ciders? Just get some fruit juice and pour vodka in it.
You want wine? Get some grape juice and pour vodka in it.
You want beer? Just dissolve some stale bread in vodka. It has less sugar. Healthier for you.
Need paint thinner? Medical antiseptic? Flammable Molly material?
Just spritz some slav tap water on it and you'll have good time
I’ve never really considered hops to be an interesting flavor. It’s just… flat and bitter to me.
I truly don’t understand why so many people love IPAs, or try to sneak extreme hoppiness into other beer styles. (An IPA with fruit juice is not a saison! And a 70 IBU “kolsch” is a war crime!)
As a person who prefers the complex, bright and earthy flavors from grains and yeast, getting face-fucked at the end of every sip by a one-note weed pine cone is so disappointing.
I truly don’t understand why so many people love IPAs
Flavor nuance. I don't like hopsy beer myself, but there's a LOT of different profiles out there. I've even found a few IPAs I liked.
As a person who prefers the complex, bright and earthy flavors from grains and yeast, getting face-fucked at the end of every sip by a one-note weed pine cone is so disappointing.
That I'll agree with. Not a lot of drinkers respect the mashbill anymore.
I'm the opposite. I prefer a pale ale over an IPA, but recently I found hoppy larger and it is great. I find straight larger so tasteless most of the time.
Though if I am only drinking 1 or 2 beers for the night then I would choose a dark beer.
I don't have a refined palette, and I like fairly hoppy beers. It has to have a good flavor to it though. If it's made hoppy for the sake of IBUs, then it's probably bad. Like joke hot sauces are disgusting, but there are some that are delicious but really painful for me to eat, even one bite.
Older IPA hops like cascade are great but only slightly hop heavy with their classic hop flavors. The hops used more recently (I think citra and mosaic?) have great flavors when pushed to high IBUs.
Hops have amazing range. Fuggles smell like dirt. Lemondrop has a strong citrus smell.
About half of beer variety is from hops. Unless your talking about Belgians. Then it's all yeast.
I really enjoy mosaic hops; the best IPA I've ever had used them. There's maaaaany awful IPAs, but when done well I think they're delicious.
While making my earlier comment, I actually looked it up to see if maybe there was something unusual about my perception of hops, but didn’t want to overload folks with info. It seems that some people are more sensitive to bitter tastes, such as those in hops, and some folks can’t taste them at all. It’s like if the whole cilantro/soap thing were less a dichotomy, and more of a spectrum. (And I’m one of the people to whom cilantro tastes like soap.)
That’s not to say I don’t recognize or value the contribution of hops to beer, but hops aren’t the primary driver of most beers flavor profile, nor should they be. In most beer styles, the bitterness of the hops are used to balance the sweetness of the malt so the beer doesn’t taste like syrup. This allows other flavors in the malt to come out, or flavors from the yeast to say hi.
For me it’s a very fine line. I think I’m more sensitive than the average person.
If the bitterness does more than balance, then it dominates all other flavors, including any flavors within the hops themselves. It’s just bitter, flat, and tastes like how bad weed smells.
I don’t believe it’s a matter of unrefined taste. I can talk to you all day about floral notes of lightly roasted grains, the heavier flavors of darker roasted malts, or what kind of funk a yeasty beer has.
But hops. Too much, and it’s just one flavor for me. I think the only time I’ve been able to enjoy a hop’s flavor was when I ate a fresh one on a brewery tour.
I'm German too, while I usually prefer southern german beer with a strong wheat, malt and yeast flavour I also occasionally like to explore other flavours like IPA or more exotic ones from different countries. I mean, drink what you like or don't drink at all (which might be better, health-wise). Gates open, come on in.
Something I should mention: I do like IPAs (not only IPA but they are tasty) and can find all 3 of the style of shirt in this weird AI looking stock image in my closet.
Soooooo...
If they weren't so overplayed it wouldn't be so bad, but every microbrew has like 3 IPAs, 2 dry-hopped pilsners, and a seasonal novelty that if you're lucky is something noticably different like a wheat beer or a porter.
I like hoppy beers (one of the beet beers I've had was one that had sort of a coconut/citrus flavor from the hops) but agreed. Too many small breweries add hops to mask the flavor of their shitty beer.
