Why would he do this? The republicans fucked him over, what's the motivation behind this? Simply to win Georgia?

Also how will the dems react?

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Biden offered nothing though. When the checks were removed from the stimulus a few weeks ago, he got on twitter and bragged. "The government is not supposed to help you, people don't want handouts". That's Joe Biden for you. No one in their right mind truly believed he was going to pass a stimulus.

    This is also on Pelosi. She sent one bill to the senate and McConnell shot it down and then she did nothing all that time. She could've been pushing bill after bill and made McConnell into the bad guy as he would've been forced to shoot them all down. Instead, she only sent one, and then Trump offered a bigger stimulus, which she turned down and got on TV and bragged to Wolf Blitzer that she turned it down cause it would help his election chances.

    Biden isn't going to do jack shit as president and it will be all their fault while they try to find a way to blame it on Trump.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        No one. I've been posting on here for a while and get a lot of shitty replies from people who think I am trolling or that I'm posting SocDem BS when I say that the Democrats will likely alienate everyone outside their most die hard followers and rich donor base and that Biden's presidency will be a nightmare that invokes a massive far right reactionary movement , but that is exactly what is going to happen.

        Dems won't have anyone left but the K-Hive and their usual celebrity donors and billionaire oligarchs backing them by 2024. Biden will be the death of the Democratic party. They couldn't even retake the Senate with this senile old rapist ghoul. They're going to lose the house in midterms and then set the stage for someone like Tom Cotton to come out of nowhere and win 2024.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Biden’s presidency will be a nightmare that invokes a massive far right reactionary movement

          Yes to a nightmare, (cautiously) no to a massive reactionary movement.

          One of the main reasons Obama produced unprecedented reaction is that he was black, and Biden isn't (and apparently neither are you if you didn't vote for him!). In addition to that, Biden will try less and do less than Obama, and he won't try to give it the same progressive gloss. Biden will also stay quieter than Obama, as he did during the campaign -- he'll attract less attention and he'll get fewer fawning media pieces.

          Finally, the right's base is going to fracture. The people who want an air of respectability tolerated the hooting chuds when the hooting chuds brought them a winner, but now? From the other side, chuds clearly hate political insiders and will turn against any elected Republican in a heartbeat. I don't see it lasting.

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            The likelihood of a massive right wing movement also has to do with it being America. Movements don't happen here. Americans don't do anything. We're docile media consumers who engage in spectacle and posting wars. The largest grassroots movement in the country right now is Qanon.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I interpreted "reactionary movement" as something closer to the Tea Party, but you're absolutely right about anything more direct. Even the anti-lockdown and Stop the Steal protests fizzled out pretty quickly.

            • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              It won't be a protest movement, but a protest party splintered from the establishment GOP.

              I'm pretty sure at this point the venn diagram of Qanon voters and the Trump or die death cult is a single circle. It'll be them plus a vast populist coalition of weird antivaxxers, cosplaying libertarian tea party holdouts, and bicoastal banker bros and unemployed factory workers from Pennsylvania and Ohio, all united in their admiration of Andrew Jackson, supporting celebrity rapists in the name of anti-cancel culture, and the desire to do hate crimes against brown and Asian people in the name of protectionism while also marrying Chinese, Vietnamese and Cuban women from reactionary conservative families.

              What a time to be alive.

    • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It looks like Pelosi is also on board with the $2000 stimulus and asked for Trump to veto it and sene the bill back

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Probably, it's good she immediately came out in support though. Earlier Trump seemed absent from the conversation and negotiations were between McConnel and Mnnuchin who I think didn't want new stimulus checks at all.

    • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Nancy has done half assed performative voters so something like force the vote can be easily undermined by pointing at her useless performances

    • Shylo
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      1 year ago

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