Only Felix had a few good words for it - the rest retreated into lame doomed crap as though it’s only theatre.

Fuck that! Make Pelosi sweat! Fuck shit up and push hard now, while public support for M4A is peaking.

  • ColinInk [any]
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    4 years ago

    Alright, so AOC is best placed to gather a group to force a vote. So what?

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I think you lost the thread of the discussion.

      The point is that if we have the power to apply enough external pressure to get M4A passed, then we can just use that pressure to get it passed regardless of some procedural nonsense.

      Suppose, hypothetically, that there was a massive general strike that shut down the country, and politicians were left with no choice but to give in to demands. Or maybe we have a campaign capable of making serious primary challenges to anyone who votes against it. If that were to happen, then it wouldn't matter whether or not AOC had negotiated a floor vote or not, because we could make demands of Pelosi and the Dems directly.

      So this stuff about "The vote can succeed, we just have to back it up with a movement" is kind of nonsense because if we could back it up with a movement then we could just do that regardless of whether AOC does what you want. Which is why it's dumb to have all these pointless discussions about a pointless vote instead of discussing actual plans that have more than a 0% chance of working.