I think there's some good explanation in that first thread. We should absolutely ban outright transphobic people, but I hope we don't create an environment where people are afraid to engage in conversation and ask questions. I think pretty much everyone here is or wants to be a trans ally, but not everyone is as well-informed about what is or isn't transphobic. Just because you find something obvious doesn't mean everyone will. Banning well-intentioned people who simply don't understand the issue entirely is counterproductive. There needs to be room for discussion without throwing the ban hammer down right away.
This is why I think it should be illegal to be a g*mer. What is it that makes them so cringe? Why is it so hard for them to be good people? The world may never know, but for now there should be repression.
come on... you got temp banned for harassing a user over their neopronouns like two months ago... that thread pushed several people away from the site.
What I did was bring up the unaddressed contradiction of the tendency of large swaths of colonized people and victims of US Imperialism to not yet be accepting of relatively newly accepted social positions of the left wrt neopronouns, and whether or not it is harmful to preemptively label them as "not my comrade". I still think this is something nobody wants to talk about to avoid a shitshow like that thread. The question wasn't "should we ignore how colonized people feel about trans people", it was "should we preemptively write off colonized people that might have reactionary views on trans people." I never once implied that you should be thrown under the bus, just that they shouldn't.
I will absolutely admit to making cruelly dismissive comments at someone about something I did not understand (deer/doe pronouns) as a reaction to being repeatedly called a transphobe. I was mad at a user specifically because I felt attacked and reacted cruelly. It was wrong and I'm genuinely sorry for invalidating anyone.
If that bothers you confront your behavior and thoughts about people like me.
I have reflected and discussed my shitty behavior in that thread with another comrade privately. I let myself react dismissively and hostilely in a way that was meant to hurt someone's feelings and that's wrong. Declaring that I have negative thoughts about trans and gender nonconforming people as a group isn't fair though. I don't.
Also, the person who wrote a long straw man hypothetical about a refugee camp in Yemen was someone else and I believe they were permanently banned.
Damn I was at work, what did I miss
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I think there's some good explanation in that first thread. We should absolutely ban outright transphobic people, but I hope we don't create an environment where people are afraid to engage in conversation and ask questions. I think pretty much everyone here is or wants to be a trans ally, but not everyone is as well-informed about what is or isn't transphobic. Just because you find something obvious doesn't mean everyone will. Banning well-intentioned people who simply don't understand the issue entirely is counterproductive. There needs to be room for discussion without throwing the ban hammer down right away.
This is why I think it should be illegal to be a g*mer. What is it that makes them so cringe? Why is it so hard for them to be good people? The world may never know, but for now there should be repression.
come on... you got temp banned for harassing a user over their neopronouns like two months ago... that thread pushed several people away from the site.
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thanks for saying this. this shit is so frustrating.
What I did was bring up the unaddressed contradiction of the tendency of large swaths of colonized people and victims of US Imperialism to not yet be accepting of relatively newly accepted social positions of the left wrt neopronouns, and whether or not it is harmful to preemptively label them as "not my comrade". I still think this is something nobody wants to talk about to avoid a shitshow like that thread. The question wasn't "should we ignore how colonized people feel about trans people", it was "should we preemptively write off colonized people that might have reactionary views on trans people." I never once implied that you should be thrown under the bus, just that they shouldn't.
I will absolutely admit to making cruelly dismissive comments at someone about something I did not understand (deer/doe pronouns) as a reaction to being repeatedly called a transphobe. I was mad at a user specifically because I felt attacked and reacted cruelly. It was wrong and I'm genuinely sorry for invalidating anyone.
I have reflected and discussed my shitty behavior in that thread with another comrade privately. I let myself react dismissively and hostilely in a way that was meant to hurt someone's feelings and that's wrong. Declaring that I have negative thoughts about trans and gender nonconforming people as a group isn't fair though. I don't.
Also, the person who wrote a long straw man hypothetical about a refugee camp in Yemen was someone else and I believe they were permanently banned.
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