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  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i haven't seen any posts by people saying they're leaving because they're experiencing transphobia, and i just don't see this giant amount of transphobia that you claim to see here.

    • the_river_cass [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      because most of them aren't posting about it. they're just leaving. so people notice and DM them to ask why - it's the same thing over and over, a hostile atmosphere. the downvotes capture the surface of the problem - support posts and love threads get downvotes.

      the deeper problem is the level of push back every single thread about cissexism gets. someone points out that a game has shitty elements? thirty post subthread because "this has shitty elements" means "you're a shitty person for liking this" to a disturbing percentage of the user base.

      and that's just my experience. I'm tired of having to fight a struggle session every time cissexism and transphobia comes up on this site. it makes it impossible to relax here. it's triggering and I too will eventually leave if it never lets up.

      • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        fuck that game and that company and anybody that defends that shit and good on you for being more patient than i would be. i still say those users make an extremely small minority of people here and i think most of those examples are just ignorant and unaware, not hateful, but those are decent examples of prejudice and i can see how that type of presence would create a hostile environment. i don't think having downvote cops is the solution to the problem, and think it should be addressed directly.

        • the_river_cass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          i still say those users make an extremely small minority of people

          the downvote ratio on posts calling out transphobia pretty consistently show about 25% disapproval. people noticed that it was extremely consistent, which is how anyone got the idea to check voting patterns in the first place.

          i think most of those examples are just ignorant and unaware, not hateful

          which is the deeper issue. it is ignorance but it's ignorance in volume that's overwhelming to the trans userbase. chiding people to cut it out has been tried for months. people don't read the careful explanations. downvotes on transpositive content is just a more cut and dry criteria for cleaning it up.

          also, I need to stress - that was my day yesterday. this goes back two months. I'm just not clicking through my post history to dig it all out. it's really not an extremely small minority of the userbase - it's a substantial minority. (no one is claiming that it approaches anything like a majority)

          I really can't stress enough the amount of time I've sunk into education on this issue on this site already. it's a neverending sink of my time and energy.