This is a leaked video from Blackwater in Iraq. It's some horrifying shit - they're just driving into town running over people and shooting random people for fun. Obviously the content is shocking, so careful if you're not ready to watch this. Also, imagine the shit they did that wasn't filmed/leaked.
You misunderstand; even if there was absolutely no doubt on Earth someone was guilty of such crimes - like absolutely 100% no possibility of them being not guilty, I would still be against it. A state/community should never assassinate someone that doesn't represent an immediate risk to others (such as if he's been arrested and incarcerated), period. Again, I think human rights are paramount.
About the only case where I could see it being applied, though, is in extreme cases where said community definitely cannot afford the resources to properly house such people to put them aside/try to rehabilitate them without greatly damaging the rest of the community (which definitely isn't the case in our modern societies - as a stupid scenario to illustrate: think a group of people stranded on a desert island, for example, and incapable to afford keeping such a person alive securely without endangering their survival - killing them would still be a tragedy, but an understandable one).
Who exactly do you think people who commit war crimes like black water, green berets, and navy seals are? I don't understand why you're comparing them to regular people. No, these are people who have been specifically trained by the most powerful governments on this planet to be as brutal as humanly possible in order to achieve objectives leading to conquest in the name of capitalism, imperialism, and white Supremacy. If you want to know who the most indoctrinated people on this planet are look no further because it's not us with our copies of state and revolution in our rooms, it's these guys.
This is not 18 year old johnny who had no chance to find a job so he joined the army and was given a rifle, these are men who joined because the paycheck is a bonus. And a lot of the time they fully admit to that.
On this, I agree fully. But the fact there were indeed indoctrinated tends in my mind to strengthen my position on the death penalty: without that indoctrination, they would likely be much better people. Society does have some measure of responsibility on why they ended up this way (both due to that indoctrination and the general horror, brutality and individualistic mindset of our modern capitalistic societies). Assassinating them seems therefore to shirk that responsibility. They're in the middle of firing on civilians ? by all means shoot them to stop them and save lives. They've already been arrested and are no longer a direct and present risk ? no murdering them.
Moreover, at least for some of them I believe such indoctrination can be reversed (but again, even if not).
That's exactly why I made the stipulation that these men in particular should be subject to the death penalty. They are not like the general public anymore, thats why the general public shouldn't be subject to that level of punishment in the first place.
Saying we shouldn't subject them to the possibility of the death penalty because they were indoctrinated is completely ignoring the fact that they specifically took themselves outside of our society to seek out that indoctrination.
Even then when they come back what do they do? They set up defense firms because all they've ever done is kill people their entire adult lives. They literally come back home to spread that indoctrination to the general public. Don't believe me? Go look up any number of training youtube channels set up by navy seals, green berets, army rangers, and the "defense contractor"
Tactical rifleman, tactical Hyve, warrior poet society just to name a few.