I dont really understand the "we should downvote low-effort content regardless of its trans positivity" POV

Like i dont downvote any content at all unless its obviously trolling or whatever. Im just happy to have chapo content regardless of its quality. i felt lost for what felt like years (it was definitely weeks) after the subreddit ban and i was overjoyed when i learned about this place. Even when reading the shittiest of shitposts its heartwarming bc it reminds me im not alone, and im not crazy for seeing the world the way i do.

This isn't reddit, we shouldn't need to police content for quality the way we did on that site. This is probably a bad idea but im even tempted to say we should just do away with the downvote button. If someone's being a reactionary/stupidpol dipshit just report them and move on. Yeah its a bit reminiscent of the way TheDonald runs their shit, but then again they have way better unity than we do, maybe theres something to be said about removing the downvote button.

Btw to all the stupidpol lurkers on this site: you do know that workers solidarity requires intersectional solidarity in order to occur? Social hierarchies need to be dissolved before economic hierarchies can be attacked. Think before you do class reductionism.

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    4 years ago

    Social hierarchies need to be dissolved before economic hierarchies can be attacked. Think before you do class reductionism.

    There's a spectrum of reasonable opinion here. I'm fully in favor of dissolving social hierarchies, am highly supportive of trans positivity, and consider myself an intersectionalist. I'm not even necessarily opposed to banning based on these kind of downvotes, but I feel like it was handled poorly by the mods (banning way too many people in the first pass, not discussing it first, pointing to the poll that said the voting history access would be used for another purpose). I also think that I personally put more relative importance on class issues than some people on this site do, and that economic hierarchy issues are more painfully underrepresented in broader politics than those related to social hierarchy.

    The thing that's bothered me about this whole struggle session is that it's felt like people with similar viewpoints to mine are getting lumped in and branded as TERFs, class reductionists, fascists, stupidpol, etc. This alienates a portion of the community that are, in reality, extremely closely aligned to the rest of the users here. It baffles me that we try to be nonsectarian, and can accommodate such different philosophies as anarchism and Marxist-Leninism, while simultaneously having very little tolerance for slightly different opinions about the relative importance of social and economic issues.

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      4 years ago

      Ideological differences aside, a demonstrable and concerted effort to undermine trans spaces and solidarity exists. This isnt an abstract conversation about ideology, thereis a tangible effect on our trans comrades. So if a couple people accidentally get banned and have to appeal then that is how cis can use their priviledge to aid.