woke-segregationists are among us
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Mfw “segregation is bad” is a hot take
Like the only real argument anyone here has is “well she didn’t ACKSHUALLY mean segregation!!!!” which like, how tf do you know what they meant? But even if you’re right then it’s not OP’s fault the statement was worded fucking terribly
Black nationalism sounds fucking awful too until you actually know what it means. Stop acting like words don't have different meanings in different contexts and just do some independent research.
There’s no context where forcibly separating people based on race is not reactionary. If your definition of segregation is different from that then I suppose I could see your point, but I’ve made it clear what kind of segregation I’m talking about
Yes nobody is using that definition of segregation. There is no call for an authoritarian body to forcibly separate races, they are calling to allow themselves to separate from white people for a multitude of reasons a) they can't trust white people in a white supremacist state and b) they have lost much of their culture due to slavery and segregation so they want an opportunity to rectify that proactively.
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I’m Native American but good try lol, I’m sure pulling the “you’re white” card will work on the next one
But regardless, if you’re conflating black liberation, which is a leftist ideology about black people separating themselves from the white supremacist state, with black nationalism, which is filled with the exact same reactionary tendencies as other forms of ethno-nationalism (Black Israelites, NOI, for example), then either your podcast hasn’t taught you as much as you think it has, or you’re being willfully dishonest
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Can you completely separate them historically? No probably not, but can you purge them of their reactionary elements (which definitely includes the idea of forcibly segregating people based on race) so you’re left with a truly liberatory ideology, rather than a non-materialist one which attributes racism to individual behavior rather than class relations? Yes, you can and you should
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None of what you’re saying is wrong, and I should’ve been more nuanced about my use of the term black nationalism, since you’re right that it’s not inherently reactionary
But this conversation is specifically about segregation, which in my view is inherently reactionary regardless of the greater ideological project it happens to be a part of
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yup i have nothing against what is here being described as possible non-segregationist interpretations of what she meant
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