Billionaires and world/military leaders get their Nuremberg, and go straight to the guillotine. Almost no exceptions considering the amount of horrors they unleashed on the world.
Honestly, I'm still pretty strongly against a post-revolutionary organization, whether it be officially a state or otherwise, engaging in organized killing of anyone if that person could be safely tucked away somewhere without being a threat to the revolution. Ethically, I don't see the point in revenge-based murder. If the revolution is effective, these people shouldn't be any kind of threat. The necessity of killing is a purely utilitarian one for me, so I'm only concerned about what these people can do going forward. I get that emotionally some people are fixated on brutal violent justice, but I don't think thats a healthy path for a revolution to go down if it can be avoided.
I wouldn't die on this hill. I'd do what I could to advocate for my position, but I recognize that its a fight I'm probably not going to win. And I wouldn't mourn these people when they are dead. I just have strong feelings about the idea that state (or organized society that technically isn't a state) killing is a bad idea ethically no matter how monstrous the person.
I seperated this from the Survivor comment because that one is trivial lol.
Not sure what purged means in this context. My preference would be that they be isolated from society in reasonably comfortable conditions, and definitely not allowed to have a platform. I also believe all justice should at least try to be reformative, though I admit I don't think it would work on most of them. I just think its the ethically correct thing to try to.
When I use the term purge, I mean to remove them from a position of power or influence, attempt to deradicalize their reactionary tendencies, or lock them up if absolutely necessary
Honestly, I'm still pretty strongly against a post-revolutionary organization, whether it be officially a state or otherwise, engaging in organized killing of anyone if that person could be safely tucked away somewhere without being a threat to the revolution. Ethically, I don't see the point in revenge-based murder. If the revolution is effective, these people shouldn't be any kind of threat. The necessity of killing is a purely utilitarian one for me, so I'm only concerned about what these people can do going forward. I get that emotionally some people are fixated on brutal violent justice, but I don't think thats a healthy path for a revolution to go down if it can be avoided.
I wouldn't die on this hill. I'd do what I could to advocate for my position, but I recognize that its a fight I'm probably not going to win. And I wouldn't mourn these people when they are dead. I just have strong feelings about the idea that state (or organized society that technically isn't a state) killing is a bad idea ethically no matter how monstrous the person.
I seperated this from the Survivor comment because that one is trivial lol.
How exactly is a revolution going to be so successful that billionaires and their reactionary followers won't try to organize a counter-revolution?
I'm not suggesting we let them live freely and have influence.
So you do agree that they need to be at least purged, correct?
Not sure what purged means in this context. My preference would be that they be isolated from society in reasonably comfortable conditions, and definitely not allowed to have a platform. I also believe all justice should at least try to be reformative, though I admit I don't think it would work on most of them. I just think its the ethically correct thing to try to.
When I use the term purge, I mean to remove them from a position of power or influence, attempt to deradicalize their reactionary tendencies, or lock them up if absolutely necessary
OK yes, I agree with that.