i can do some amount of reading, but when it comes to reading something like Das Kapital, my eyes glaze over

i can't be the only one who has this struggle. besides developing the practice of reading widely and deeply, what are some ways we can help ourselves to become the critical thinkers necessary for revolutionary work?

we can talk about tips/experiences like:

  • getting your vision checked
  • an adhd diagnosis
  • reward structures
  • joining book clubs
  • note taking strategies
  • etc

in essence, is there theory for "reading theory"?

  • gammison [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Literally join a bookclub or reading group. That's the number one thing that helps. See if your local dsa is having one, or there's also the Marxist Education Project which is doing things online because covid.

    • foxodroid [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I’m a big fan of having someone explain these texts, that’s just my learning style.

      Same. Can't focus or memorise for shit. The only way the information "sticks" is by hearing it broken down and explained a couple times.

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    You should treat Capital vol1 2 and 3 as reference books rather than attempting to read them start to finish. Want to understand what surplus value is? Go to the index and look up surplus value then read everywhere its mentioned. Want to understand price go to the index etc.

    Though if you're going to read them start to finish understand what Marx is doing..... he is taking each piece out of the Capitalist system and showing it to you like a piece from a car and explaining how it works whilst also explaining how it cannot work eg. this steering wheel cannot possibly be an exhaust because there is no piping to push out the fumes etc

    If you were to read a car manual to understand how a car works it would inevitably be boring....But you would still want to know what the function of your radiator and wheels is

    I don't really think you should read capital until you have read a Selected works copies which have been laid out correctly and broken up to show what Marx and Engels philosophical world outlook was. These are laid out in such a way that they are entertaining with Marx giving a detailed historical materialist analysis of the Civil War In France and the 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

    Selected works in 2 volumes I recommend (though get physical copies of them if you can)

    Vol 1 https://archive.org/details/swmarxengels1/page/589/mode/2up

    Vol 2 https://archive.org/details/swmarxengels2/page/493/mode/2up

    And again whilst these can be read quite pleasurably from start to finish but you can still use them as textbooks to search in the index to see what they say on the nature of the State, the Dictatorship of the proletariat, commodities, industry etc.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      he is taking each piece out of the Capitalist system and showing it to you like a piece from a car and explaining how it works whilst also explaining how it cannot work eg. this steering wheel cannot possibly be an exhaust because there is no piping to push out the fumes etc

      Holy shit. Saved. You just used one sentence to explain what would have taken me 6 hours to articulate.

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Some of us are reading theory on stream. @BrookeBaybee for instance. I’ve been talking about a stream theory reading group for a while, in hopes of making it more digestible.

    I know there was a group reading last year organized by @marxisthayaca, i think? Keeping it as a group activity should help.

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I’ve been saying the new year for a while. I wanted to do it over twitch to maximize it, i hope to make a thread in time.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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      4 years ago

      I am personally not organizing anything right now due to professional and personal workload, but if anybody wants to run a book club, I'll happily share any and all the resources we used.

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Thank you for the work you did last year, and filling up the perusal sites full of new readings, even if I fell off. I've been slowly SLOWLY making my way through the readings at my own pace, but i remembered how coming together every once in a while to read the chapters together made for a more engaging time, and allowed everyone participating a chance to chew on the theory if it was giving them problems. I would hope any new attempts keep that kind of energy going. I was hoping to take from the lessons learned from that.

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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          4 years ago

          Thank you. Comments like this make it all worht it :D. It was a fun partnership between myself and another reddit user that went gung-ho and just found EVERYTHING they could get their hands on, as well as helping me organize stuff. I had a LOT of fun running the bookclub and I'm dying to do it again, after graduate school.

  • disco [any]
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    4 years ago

    Old theory can be tough, because it is old. Das Kapital was published in 1867. Lenin's work is from the early 20th century. Both were originally written in foreign (to US based readers) languages. These factors conspire with the already somewhat dry nature of the material to make them tough for modern readers.

    In addition to the strategies mentioned by other users here, I suggest seeking out more modern theory. Murray Bookchin is a good example if you're interested in anarchism, Michael Parenti is more of a traditional marxist (or so I'm told, I haven't read his work personally)

    There are others as well, if you look for writers in that vein, you'll surely find them.

  • fusion513 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Haven't seen it mentioned yet, so I'd like to give a shout out to Red Menace Podcast .

    Brett and Alyson really do some excellent primary text analysis where they explain key concepts "in plain English." I've found that listening to their analysis - along with reading along with it myself - helps me a lot.

  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Ideally, reading these texts should be a communal activity for a variety of reasons;

    -motivation and accountability to stick with it, even when it gets difficult to
    -more diverse perspectives on the text itself help everyone come to a deeper understanding of it
    -the praxis part inherently necessitates other people outside yourself, the earlier you get together the better
    -some dialogue/conversation relating the texts to contemporaneity will inevitably emerge, which is very much the point

    All that being said, I personally enjoy listening to others discuss texts too, so good podcasts have been pretty instrumental for me personally, as I can pair them with mindless menial everyday tasks like housework.

    • foxodroid [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      theoreticians who you’re interested in or who existed in a particular context you enjoy can make reading more engaging as drawing connections between pieces of knowledge builds an even stronger base for further learning.

      Me reading Frantz Fanon and realizing how accurately his analysis describes Palestine, despite not being about Palestine.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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    4 years ago

    Thank you @Grownbravy for tagging me on here.

    I learned this when I was full-on in Artist hobbyist mode, an instructor said that mental health is very important, and getting yourself taken care of and being in the right headspace should definitely be a thing you prioritize before moving forward. I like to think the concept applies across disciplines. So if you have blurry vision or mental health issues, do what you can to make it right.

    Reward structures, it's something i'll probably study in the near future within my grad school program; but for the time being, I'd say having an intrinsic locus of motivation rather than extrinsic. That is, you want to get better at theory because it will be inherently good to you or a project you are working on (food not bombs needs better organizing, the defund the police group is getting taken over by libs, DSA Commie caucus needs some new folks, etc). Alternatively, you could do book clubs. The Chapo.chat discord server/ark from the banned days is still active and it is nominally connected to the /c/books community. You can join their reading group and meet over discord. I read Pedagogy of the Oppressed twice just so I could talk to them :).

    You can also join the Perusall Book Club. We have 450+ books on theory (and some light reading) as well as some video content. The book club was started in /r/CTH and we went through Capital Vol. 1, Wage, Labour and Profit, State and Revolution, Shock Doctrine, and a few others. The Perusall tool allows people to annotate in the margins, so if you read ANY of those books you'll have old marginalia from other comrades, to either clarify or argue with (I know I still check my perusall emails occasionally).

    I am a big, HUGE, proponent of marginalia and annotation. It's why I found Perusall and Hypothes.is. I now annotate pretty much everything in my life (digital or physical books). So I'd recommend that as a note-taking strategy. Your margin notes can be anything from agreeing or disagreeing, question marks for further reading, highlight dope-ass quotes, and essay length comments relating your understanding to the book or piece of literature in question. Ultimately the point of absorbing all this theory is to either write about it at length, condense it into propaganda, or explain it to other people. And marginalia and writing will help you practice your communication.

    One additional piece of advice I'd give, google the title of the book or theory literature you are reading + study guide, or look up podcasts about leftist theory. If the book is well known, you'll have some additional resources that might help you clarify outstanding questions.

    If you want to search out for a small scale book club or form your own. PLEASE tag me on /c/books and I'll pin your request to the top.

      • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Luckily I do! I already have a referral to a psych for an unrelated issue with gender dysphoria so maybe I can bring it up then since I will see the new psych before I see the regular primary doc again

        I will check out that channel. Thank you, I feel as if I have some sort of executive function disorder in some way and I think it’s impacted my daily life a lot, I am starting to notice.

    • HectorCotylus [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      You can talk to your regular doctor about it. They might refer you it might handle treatment themselves. That varies wildly from doctor to doctor.

      • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I already have a referral to a psych for an unrelated issue with gender dysphoria so maybe I can bring it up then I will see the psych before I see the pcp