Whoops, I just accidentally supported war criminals
Oopsie haha hope there aren't any devastating consequences, just a tiny little mistake
Western leftist moment
Being a leftist is when you refuse to hold your favorite politician accountable for his previous actions instead of coming to terms with the fact that he isn't the epic socialist grandpa you wanted him to be. He's a social democrat who is capable of having shitty takes and supporting shitty things. He's not immune to criticism because he also does good things. I can commend him for the good things he's done and put him on blast when he deserves it.
Edit: I'm not dumping bernie completely, I'm just not gonna make excuses for him when he fucks up. Early 20th century unions did very cool shit but they were also incredibly racist, but I don't think anyone here is gonna complain about "purity testing" if I point that out.
To quote Mao:
To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.
oh no he voted on a bill that would have passed without his vote, guess the sole reason m4a is popular in America and a lifetime spent advocating for workers is cancelled sweaty
Screaming "CANCEL CULTURE" when we're criticizing a politican for voting to bomb civilians pretty much epitomizes the statement "cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds".
You can support Bernie when he does good things without reactively defending him on the shitty things he's done.
yep im fash for thinking that criticizing a house vote from 22 years ago that would have changed nothing either way he voted isn’t productive and worthwhile. Literally no leftist that isn’t a succ dem thinks American Imperialism is good.
Go post your imperialism apologia over on r/socialdemocracy
Edit: Whew, looks like I ruffled a few feathers. I guess being a dick is when I point out your flawed justification. I don't care if it happened a century ago, or how much his vote actually influenced the outcome, what matters is he expressed support for American intervention in Yugoslavia, something that is indefensible. You explicitly acknowledged that you believed it was acceptable to vote for the aforementioned intervention because his vote didn't turn the tables. This is what is known as an excuse. Is it so hard to acknowledge that Bernie fucked up? Imagine if I tried to handwave away Biden's support for segregation by saying it happened a long time ago and also he didn't manage to save it so what does it matter anyway.
because it literally doesn’t matter that Bernie voted yes on it, wow a politician had the wrong opinion 22 years ago on a bill that had bipartisan support and was probably given false justification/information by the intelligence community anyway. If he then supported the Iraq war sure but bringing up shit that literally doesn’t matter in a country that doesn’t exist anymore is stupid and counter productive. no leftist thinks American imperialism is good
Whoops, I just accidentally did an imperialism
Whoops, I just accidentally supported war criminals
Oopsie haha hope there aren't any devastating consequences, just a tiny little mistake
Western leftist moment
Being a leftist is when you refuse to hold your favorite politician accountable for his previous actions instead of coming to terms with the fact that he isn't the epic socialist grandpa you wanted him to be. He's a social democrat who is capable of having shitty takes and supporting shitty things. He's not immune to criticism because he also does good things. I can commend him for the good things he's done and put him on blast when he deserves it.
Edit: I'm not dumping bernie completely, I'm just not gonna make excuses for him when he fucks up. Early 20th century unions did very cool shit but they were also incredibly racist, but I don't think anyone here is gonna complain about "purity testing" if I point that out.
To quote Mao:
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oh no he voted on a bill that would have passed without his vote, guess the sole reason m4a is popular in America and a lifetime spent advocating for workers is cancelled sweaty
Supporting imperialism is ok when your vote doesn't decide the issue.
great man theory time let's go
How dare I criticize bernie for his vote. How dare I point out that he supported intervention in Yugoslavia. Truly cancel culture has gone too far.
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Screaming "CANCEL CULTURE" when we're criticizing a politican for voting to bomb civilians pretty much epitomizes the statement "cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds".
You can support Bernie when he does good things without reactively defending him on the shitty things he's done.
yep im fash for thinking that criticizing a house vote from 22 years ago that would have changed nothing either way he voted isn’t productive and worthwhile. Literally no leftist that isn’t a succ dem thinks American Imperialism is good.
TIL voting for bombing civilians is ok as long as you didn't cast the tie-breaking vote.
how the fuck is this productive you are literally just being a fucking dick head for no reason leave me alone
glad you understand
Go post your imperialism apologia over on r/socialdemocracy
Edit: Whew, looks like I ruffled a few feathers. I guess being a dick is when I point out your flawed justification. I don't care if it happened a century ago, or how much his vote actually influenced the outcome, what matters is he expressed support for American intervention in Yugoslavia, something that is indefensible. You explicitly acknowledged that you believed it was acceptable to vote for the aforementioned intervention because his vote didn't turn the tables. This is what is known as an excuse. Is it so hard to acknowledge that Bernie fucked up? Imagine if I tried to handwave away Biden's support for segregation by saying it happened a long time ago and also he didn't manage to save it so what does it matter anyway.
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the kiddie pool is always full of piss
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your argument is dumb because your assuming people are voting yes on bills they disagree with because “they are going to pass anyway”
im not saying that lol
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because it literally doesn’t matter that Bernie voted yes on it, wow a politician had the wrong opinion 22 years ago on a bill that had bipartisan support and was probably given false justification/information by the intelligence community anyway. If he then supported the Iraq war sure but bringing up shit that literally doesn’t matter in a country that doesn’t exist anymore is stupid and counter productive. no leftist thinks American imperialism is good
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I'd like this guy to go to the Balkans and tell everyone there how irrelevant the whole Yugoslavia thing was