And realise it's not good for me to be this invested in your dumb affairs. Yet here we are.

The "he's embarrassing us in front of the cool kids" contingent: https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1344652899771707393?s=19

https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/1344702225675857922?s=19

https://twitter.com/Dan_Arrows/status/1344684216446054403?s=19

The "this isn't how you do politics" division https://twitter.com/nataliesurely/status/1344658566477709313?s=19

The "People should never be yelled at or be angry, especially if it's a white man doing it" battalion https://twitter.com/Vanessa_ABee/status/1344670081436033026?s=19

https://twitter.com/katewillett/status/1344741111563243520?s=19

The "he has an expensive house" partisans https://twitter.com/JaneOst_/status/1344699611689185280?s=19

The Means_TV crew making a prescedant https://twitter.com/ChiJohnnyCash/status/1344663683327283200?s=19

You can probably find more. The question you should ask yourself why is there a vacuum in the conversation for Jimmy to fill in the first place? Why aren't your "progressives" the ones leading?

The only good thing in the quoted thread is this: https://twitter.com/asankawlk/status/1344644783801655298?s=19
And Dore is right when he says you should treat your politicians like civil servants. They are not you friends.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    The two most powerful anti-socialist political parties on the planet are the US cons and the US dems. That's just an objective fact.

    If you want to believe that one of them are not our enemies because they are ever so slightly to the left of the other one, go right ahead. I'll be over here laughing.

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
        1·
        4 years ago

        You don't "criticize capitalism".

        You're either against capitalism, or you're for capitalism. Socialism or barbarism.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
          3·
          4 years ago

          This approach actively frustrates attempts to turn people into socialists. Writing off everyone who's not already 100% in agreement with you is a failing strategy.

          People don't just wake up one day and decide they're a socialist. It's a process of seeing the failures of capitalism, hearing some ideas about alternatives, getting some theoretical grounding, working through the century of anticommunist propaganda this country's been subjected to, educating oneself on leftist approaches to all sorts of topics, and so forth. At some point in this pipeline people are willing to criticize capitalism, if not abandon it entirely, and those people are worth working with and pulling closer to us.

          • anthm17 [he/him]
            ·
            4 years ago

            Yes, now is the time to push anti-capitalist rheotric.

            Not "this is corrupt" not "well more regulation".

            Anti-capitalism. Radical fucking leftism.

          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
            ·
            4 years ago

            I'm talking about the "progressive" grifters in the US dem party. Politicians with a position in the system.

            Not your friend or family member who's a cashier at the local grocery store, who voted for Biden because it seemed like the right thing to do.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Progressive democrats are one of the major gateways to leftism. Cutting off a key pipeline left is a terrible idea.

              EDIT: Shit, take a look through this thread. Progressive democrats play a valuable role in moving people left -- they're lib-safe, they're pushing popular policies that leftists support, and once people wrap their heads around the idea that socialism isn't some boogeyman they can move left pretty fast.