• ssjmarx [he/him]
    hexbear
    25
    3 years ago

    Tons of people ITT are sad about losing access to their most nostalgic flash games, but y'all aren't aware of Flashpoint, an archival project of old Flash games which has its own player.

    • @Shylo
      hexbear
      4
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      deleted by creator

    • wantonviolins [they/them]
      hexbear
      1
      3 years ago

      Flashpoint uses Adobe’s Flash Player projector, which works but is still getting discontinued along with everything else.

  • git [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    24
    3 years ago

    Adobe Flash Player is dead. There are enough alternative implementations and flash archives to look at once or twice a year and then forget existed because the world moved on a decade ago and you’re still trying to cling on to the fun you had in high school finding the latest flash games every week on miniclip.

    Anyway, this is your first reminder of the year to always pirate Adobe software.

    • post_trains [he/him]
      hexbear
      25
      3 years ago

      We need to get Meet n’Fuck games added to the UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list.

  • VHS [he/him]
    hexbear
    21
    3 years ago

    Fuck Adobe, but still, the end of an era for web games. Anyone else play Candystand Mini Golf? Shameless advertising but fun game

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
    hexbear
    18
    3 years ago

    It actually was Adobe. No really. Macromedia intended for Flash to be an animation tool with scripts. And it was pretty damn good at that. Now, some people used it as a weird multimedia type thing for their websites to make the websites real busy, but that wasn't what it was for. But when Adobe bought out Macromedia, they leaned fully into that multimedia web design thing, which caused the security issues to really show up.

    • Canama [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      4
      3 years ago

      look i understand that flash probably needed to be depreciated, but i kind of bristle at the degree to which adobe is trying to kill it. if i want to knowingly leave a security hole on my computer it should be my right to do so

    • blobjim [he/him]
      hexbear
      3
      edit-2
      3 years ago

      Well it just had the same problem as Java applets. They didn't design it originally for client-side execution in a browser so there were holes. And then JavaScript blew up and it's gross and awful but was at least designed for web scripting. I'm surprised that WebAssembly still hasn't taken off much. The problem is JavaScript is still going to be required in browsers for the rest of eternity so adding WebAssembly doesn't really fix that, it seems more intended for browser stuff that has performance requirements. Maybe someone will make a standalone WebAssembly browser with a GUI system that sidesteps HTML and JavaScript altogether and the world can rejoice.

      • wantonviolins [they/them]
        hexbear
        1
        3 years ago

        wasm has the potential to completely break the internet, every site a black box blob, executed in the sandbox of your browser and completely unmodifiable by extensions or developer tools

        • blobjim [he/him]
          hexbear
          1
          edit-2
          3 years ago

          They already have a standard interface for using WASM in a desktop environment. I don't think it would be that much different to basically create a replacement for HTML and JavaScript that has some of the same features in terms of hyperlinking and accessibility and whatnot but as an API for WASM programs to use instead of WASM being hosted inside some kind of HTML/JS environment. So extensions could still hook into the "system calls" called by the sandbox environment. I think losing some of the configurability of the web in order to make web browsers easier to develop and maintain would be good.

            • blobjim [he/him]
              hexbear
              2
              edit-2
              3 years ago

              Most websites are obfuscated and optimized anyways. More people would be able to create FOSS web browsers and other web tools if they only had to implement a WASM virtual machine and web interfaces instead of having to implement this massive HTML/JS API/renderer/VM. I doubt it will happen though because that wouldn't be in the interests of Google who basically dictates web standards, they want to continue their near monopoly on fancy web stuff and getting people to use their products.

              • wantonviolins [they/them]
                hexbear
                2
                3 years ago

                I blame Brendan Eich, everyone who ever worked on ActiveX, and the entirety of Google.

                We could have had simple, separate specifications for web documents and web applications that were easy to implement, performant, and built to purpose, but instead we have a gigantic mismash of everything over decades rolled into an impossible “standard”.

  • SimAnt [any]
    hexbear
    11
    3 years ago

    lol @ the giant ActionScript manual I bought and never got around to reading. Procrastination is good, actually

    • Canama [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      8
      3 years ago

      they just released the last stinkoman 20x6 level too

    • goldsound [he/him]
      hexbear
      4
      3 years ago

      At least they've been importing everything to YouTube for a while now. Long live the brothers Chaps

  • WojackHorseman [none/use name]
    hexbear
    7
    3 years ago

    Finishing all my bcis work in 10 minutes so I could spend the rest of the class playing that stupid pants guy game