Don’t know why he wastes time criticizing him since JT doesn’t do anything wrong. Also really funny that him and other commenters are complaining about The Deprogram being like Chapo.

Upon deeper research, it turns out Day used to post on the subreddit to dunk on BadEmpanada, which is funny since Day himself has strong BadEmpanada vibes.

  • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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    9 months ago

    There is a huge difference between "public debate" and "defend your position in public [by writing what you think I'm wrong about or why you're right]". Day writes a ton of theory and is outspoken about his views and wants people to either take them seriously by challenging or engaging with them. The bullshit of "agree to disagree" gets us nowhere. I think publicly posting is fine as a medium for such

    Debate shit is when you wanna do a quick fire bullshit thing. Day wants JT to write out where he disagrees so they can resolve or one be shown to be in error. That is good. Resolving differences has to happen.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Day wants JT to write out where he disagrees so they can resolve or one be shown to be in error.

      And yet he doesn't really write out any thoughtful critique of his own to start such a good faith conversation. He simply comes off like he is offended at the mere mention of MMT (something I also fucking hate talking about because it's bullshit but that is neither here nor there).

      If he truly wanted to engage with the content he is complaining about it would be better done in an actual article and not on twitter of all places. Especially Musk's twitter.

      • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        I found the descriptions he gave and references to other works handling similar positions plenty to begin the conversation. I found it to be plenty good enough to dismiss MMT, too, though I already had my issues with it. JT should defend it if he finds those not enough to dismiss MMT, and make that argument then. I don't think MMT deserves the time for expanded dismissal if Marx handled similar shit centuries ago well enough

        I do think though that I agree about twitter being not great, but a public place to handle such things doesn't exist with as wide of reach unfortunately. Go and write articles in Jacobin or International, but who reads that anymore? We have to deal with that at the moment, and writing articles on your own site and referencing it on twitter seems the best option I've seen so far. And that's what Roderic does