Don’t know why he wastes time criticizing him since JT doesn’t do anything wrong. Also really funny that him and other commenters are complaining about The Deprogram being like Chapo.

Upon deeper research, it turns out Day used to post on the subreddit to dunk on BadEmpanada, which is funny since Day himself has strong BadEmpanada vibes.

  • pastalicious [he/him, undecided]
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    9 months ago

    (This isn’t directed at anyone in particular) It’s so weird when we all become Nate Silvers of the left fighting about which Internet personality is the true way forward for socialism as if one of them can get out of the way and then suddenly the other one can finally usher the mass movement into America. I say this in complete hypocrisy as my brain is also completely under the thrall of internet ‘discourse’.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      9 months ago

      (This isn’t directed at anyone in particular) It’s so weird when we all become Nate Silvers of the left fighting about which Internet personality is the true way forward for socialism as if one of them can get out of the way and then suddenly the other one can finally usher the mass movement into America. I say this in complete hypocrisy as my brain is also completely under the thrall of internet ‘discourse’.

      If the rise of the far right is anything to go by we actually need as many as fucking possible, all peddling things in different ways reaching the different audiences that require very specific approaches to appeal to. There is no one size fits all, things need to be viewed holistically.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      (This isn’t directed at anyone in particular) It’s so weird when we all become Nate Silvers of the left fighting about which Internet personality is the true way forward for socialism

      Well this isn't about Roderic Day and JT, it's about whether MMT is Social-Imperialist. Roderic Day and SecondThought are just very public figures who happen to be arguing about it.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      I absolutely agree with this sentiment. I don't think either of them have even close to the understanding, intellect, and vision of say, Luxemburg or Lenin, but why should they? They have lived through so much less tragedy than those figures, they, and we, can scarce understand the suffering and deprivation that inspired and animated their struggles. I think we are barreling closer to that time though, but it's not here yet, fortunately, but it's going to be difficult to prevent it from happening and affecting all of us for awhile. I'm trying not to be doomer about it, but these things can and could get much worse , but it will likely happen slowly as we grow older, then suddenly all at once. I'm still not certain which is exactly the right path.

      Doesn't matter though, imo you should always try live with a little joie de vivre, life is short, kinda sucks, but we only get one so get into weird stuff.