not wanting to date trans women stems from y’all not viewing them as “real” women... so yes your “preference” is transphobic.— destiny (@MAM1SHAMPOO) July 1, 2020
If you thought you were a true ally, maybe it's time for some introspection.
Genuine question - can both be true? Can someone be a transphobe for not wanting to date someone but still an ally? Or more specifically sleep with someone?
Edit: I’ll leave my question as is, but my intention was to ask about sex, not about dating as in being seen on the street with someone or exploring an emotional relationship
Totally agree. I rephrased the dialogue a bit in a comment above to refocus more on the sexual aspect. I didn’t mean to phrase it as terf Puritanism about who a “woman” is but it could be taken that way in the context of dating.
I know the answer you’re aiming for is “no” but...
If someone has some problematic ideas, but when push comes to shove, they will stand between a trans comrade and a barrage of police impact munitions, are they not an ally?
This isn’t a just some far off hypothetical, either it’s a real situation that I witnessed first hand in Portland multiple times. It’s a big part of why I get so upset by these struggle sessions, because they remind me of some of the fights that ripped that movement apart.
Yeah I think you’re understanding the angle right.. Maybe normalizing discourse around the sexual aspects is needed to mitigate some of the issues (frankly, this is an issue within the LGBT community, let alone a broader population) this phenomenon.
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Genuine question - can both be true? Can someone be a transphobe for not wanting to date someone but still an ally? Or more specifically sleep with someone?
Edit: I’ll leave my question as is, but my intention was to ask about sex, not about dating as in being seen on the street with someone or exploring an emotional relationship
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Totally agree. I rephrased the dialogue a bit in a comment above to refocus more on the sexual aspect. I didn’t mean to phrase it as terf Puritanism about who a “woman” is but it could be taken that way in the context of dating.
I know the answer you’re aiming for is “no” but...
If someone has some problematic ideas, but when push comes to shove, they will stand between a trans comrade and a barrage of police impact munitions, are they not an ally?
This isn’t a just some far off hypothetical, either it’s a real situation that I witnessed first hand in Portland multiple times. It’s a big part of why I get so upset by these struggle sessions, because they remind me of some of the fights that ripped that movement apart.
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Yeah I think you’re understanding the angle right.. Maybe normalizing discourse around the sexual aspects is needed to mitigate some of the issues (frankly, this is an issue within the LGBT community, let alone a broader population) this phenomenon.