I don't think AOC is bad, but it's clear she's not as good as Bernie Sanders and neither is any of the people that the left and socialist movement at large have elected to congress.
None of them act in any way actually comparable to Kshama Sawant (who truthfully hurts herself by never acting as an insitutionalist, but there's a fine line). Even Julia Salazar whose better than AOC still acts like more of an institutionalist in the ny state senate than Sawant.
Truthfully I kinda think Jayapal is poisoning the well, and even though she endorsed Bernie over Warren, she's much closer to Warren in terms of behavior, it's just that Warren isn't actually as far left as these folks.
I think the next-best leftist in Congress right now is probably Cori Bush, maybe Rashida or Ilhan. Although it would be pretty sweet to get Nina Turner's "fuck you" energy in Congress.
Ilhan and Rashida were originally more pro establishment than AOC was to be fair as well. They just actually got fucked over by the establishment in a way AOC didn't when they got accused of anti semitism for supporting palestine and it changed them more.
Originally Ilhan didn't want Bernie to run, and wanted someone like Kamala or Warren.
Cori Bush is unquestionably the best, I actually trust her to fight in a way I don't anyone in federal government except Sanders, Jaamal Bowemann will also be good, more valuable than AOC bc he can really connect with african american men who are currently far from being reached politically by the left. The new crop is definitely better than the old one.
I don’t think AOC is bad, but it’s clear she’s not as good as Bernie Sanders
Is it, though? What policies has Bernie laid out there that AOC either doesn't agree with or doesn't go as far as Bernie? I'm all ears, because frankly AOC and Bernie seem about as close as politicians can be on policies to me.
Policies aren't everything, Bernie challenges establishment power far more than AOC. AOC hasn't actually challenged established power in anyway beyond what other politicians have done.
She has done a lot of respectable work around community organizing and movement building, but so have a lot of politicians of all stripes.
Saying this respectfully, but I genuinely don't see how Bernie challenges power more than AOC. Bernie plays ball with senate Democrats (his "friends" like Biden and Schumer) every bit that AOC does.
Bernie running for president against Hillary Clinton absolutely disrupted the status quo inside the democratic party. AOC hasn't disrupted anything.
Sure Bernie could be better, but all AOC has ever done is defend herself and parts of the movement, she hasn't really been on the attack since her first few weeks in congress. Bernie went against the party trying to get 2k checks this week, AOC did nothing like that.
I don't think AOC is bad, but it's clear she's not as good as Bernie Sanders and neither is any of the people that the left and socialist movement at large have elected to congress.
None of them act in any way actually comparable to Kshama Sawant (who truthfully hurts herself by never acting as an insitutionalist, but there's a fine line). Even Julia Salazar whose better than AOC still acts like more of an institutionalist in the ny state senate than Sawant.
Truthfully I kinda think Jayapal is poisoning the well, and even though she endorsed Bernie over Warren, she's much closer to Warren in terms of behavior, it's just that Warren isn't actually as far left as these folks.
I think the next-best leftist in Congress right now is probably Cori Bush, maybe Rashida or Ilhan. Although it would be pretty sweet to get Nina Turner's "fuck you" energy in Congress.
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Ilhan and Rashida were originally more pro establishment than AOC was to be fair as well. They just actually got fucked over by the establishment in a way AOC didn't when they got accused of anti semitism for supporting palestine and it changed them more.
Originally Ilhan didn't want Bernie to run, and wanted someone like Kamala or Warren.
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Cori Bush is unquestionably the best, I actually trust her to fight in a way I don't anyone in federal government except Sanders, Jaamal Bowemann will also be good, more valuable than AOC bc he can really connect with african american men who are currently far from being reached politically by the left. The new crop is definitely better than the old one.
Is it, though? What policies has Bernie laid out there that AOC either doesn't agree with or doesn't go as far as Bernie? I'm all ears, because frankly AOC and Bernie seem about as close as politicians can be on policies to me.
Policies aren't everything, Bernie challenges establishment power far more than AOC. AOC hasn't actually challenged established power in anyway beyond what other politicians have done.
She has done a lot of respectable work around community organizing and movement building, but so have a lot of politicians of all stripes.
Saying this respectfully, but I genuinely don't see how Bernie challenges power more than AOC. Bernie plays ball with senate Democrats (his "friends" like Biden and Schumer) every bit that AOC does.
Bernie running for president against Hillary Clinton absolutely disrupted the status quo inside the democratic party. AOC hasn't disrupted anything.
Sure Bernie could be better, but all AOC has ever done is defend herself and parts of the movement, she hasn't really been on the attack since her first few weeks in congress. Bernie went against the party trying to get 2k checks this week, AOC did nothing like that.
AOC literally unseated the 2nd or 3rd ranking establishment Dem in the House.
Edit: Also Bernie endorsed Biden and so did AOC but at least she made that comment about in a normal country they wouldnt be in the same party.