You've all probably heard by now, but a bunch of Trump supporters are marching on DC on Wednesday to pressure Congress into overturning the election. Trump is supportive of this. What do you think will happen? Will it be super small, or will it actually change Congress' votes?
Also, isn't it insanely hypocritical how these fuckers wouldn't shut up about Hillary trying to "steal" the election in 2016, and now are doing the exact same thing?
I mean, stuff like a pee tape probably doesn't exist. But it's pretty obvious that Trump launders money for folks including Russian mobsters among others via real estate. Given Putin's close relationship with Russian oligarchs and mobsters, it really isn't much of a stretch to think that Putin has plenty of dirt he could blackmail Trump with. Yes, a lot of Russiagate is just libs coming up with crazy connection but the core of it - that Trump has illegal business dealings that open him up to blackmail - is I think 100% legit.
Right but that likely happens with any large real estate investor too. Because that's how you make more money at it. Selling your properties as investments for foreign dignitaries, officials, crime lords, etc isn't only Trump. And Biden's family definitely is involved in their own game of corrupt behavior. Hell, pretty much all of congress regularly participates in insider trading. Corrupt people shouldn't be president but they always have been and will be until something changes.
The point isn't that Trump is a good guy who's got a tough rap from the libs. The point is that with Trump its the end of the fucking world, democracy is dead because of him and his actions. When this kind of shit happens and has happened all throughout American history. Because the real problem isn't a few corrupt people. It's the system. So when people lay the death of US democracy at the feet of Trump and his corruption, I cannot abide. Not because I love Trump or am trying to be contrarian to libs. But because nobody who cares about this stuff seems to have a memory past last year. And they certainly don't remember all the times in US history this shit happens yet we continue on. They have to believe Trump is an anomaly. I'm not accusing you of that, just trying to give context as to why I'm pushing back on this.
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What does any of this have to do with Russia "hacking the election?" That was the claim by Liberals, which is identical to the claim Trump is levying against the Democrats - but it is China this time.
Trump's suspicious dealings in Russia was not evidence of electoral fraud. Biden's suspicious dealings in Ukraine & China is not evidence of electoral fraud.
Liberals have no moral high-ground when it comes to manufacturing mass outrage to delegitimize an election.
You're right, part of why you have to be specific when talking about Russiagate. Yes, the whole "Russia hacked the election with facebook memes" was bullshit. But I always included Trump's obvious illegal activity to be a part of Russiagate.