Love is in the air~
Edit: Evidently these photos were taken by the South Korean army across the DMZ. There was some sort of kerfuffle about this in South Korean media because homosexuality is forbidden and punished with jail time in the South Korean military, but it's totally permitted in the DPRK.
DPRK has the best take on LGBT+ rights
https://i.imgur.com/t8Crsjs.jpg
idk where you got this from, but while gay sex is legal and it's better than a lot of repressive countries, there's still no recognition and not many rights for the community, plus all gay relations are censored in the media. in 2011 north korea literally voted against a UN joint statement on ending violence against LGBTQ people.
What additional recognition or rights are required beyond equal social rights, equal material equity and equal protection? DPRK has free healthcare and covers transgender operations, consultations and medications.
They even acknowledged that sexual relations and public displays of affection of any kind are frowned upon.
From what it looks like North Korea has a similar attitude to the LGBTQ community as Russia (which claims to be "neutral" on gay rights). I think the major difference is in Russia anti-gay propaganda is pushed while in North Korea gay people aren't discussed much at all. But in the DPRK there's:
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no gay marriage/adoption or any recognition of same-sex couples at all
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no legal recognition of trans identities
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no anti-discrimination laws for LGBTQ people in general
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LGBTQ censorship (a lot of North Koreans are unaware non-straight people exist)
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also, NK's policy on gay people in the military is very similar to Don't Ask Don't Tell in that you have to keep your sexuality private it seems like.
Can any DPRK nerds confirm or deny this? I have too many layers of lib propaganda in my brain to tell what's real or not.
I don't think it's appropriate to place the DPRK in the same category as Russia and to ignore material factors over formal legal protections that can be difficult to make use of.
That said, given the experience with the USSR I'm sure North Korea could do better.
Another thing with North Korea is it's likely more difficult to get accurate information on it than any other country, so there's a lot of grey area, but from what I've gathered there's definitely still a good amount of prejudice. I kind of agree with you but then again in Russia LGBTQ people at least have platforms like the global internet to have a community and learn about themselves, whereas LGBTQ North Koreans probably feel even more invisible and confused, despite there probably being less prejudice (probably due to sexuality not really being discussed much at all).
There's anti-discrimination for race, gender, etc, but no mention of sexual orientation
The North Korean constitution only mentions "sex, race, occupation, length of residence, property status, education, party affiliation, political views or religion." Also, upon more research North Korean media has also attacked western figures for their sexuality which is telling on the general negative attitudes there.
There are protections enshrined in law against discrimination of any kind, that protect all workers
https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Peoples_Republic_of_Korea_1998.pdf
Chapter 5
omit sexual orientation, a major component of daily life?
What? It's literally right there:
the right to scientific and artistic and leisure pursuits
I mean they could add it, that would be fine, but I don’t think there’s any serious repression going on in DPRK besides a general cultural tone, which is hard (if not impossible) for the state to correct immediately.
The State shall powerfully conduct the Three-Revolution Red Flag Movement and other mass movements and accelerate the building of socialism to the maximum.
Well I like their enthusiasm.
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what classism tho. like sure the lgbt pride parades are shit but that isnt what the movement is
They specifically wrote “perceived to be western LGBT culture”. If you are on the outside looking at American culture and how it perceives LGBT you can’t blame them for associating it with Queer Eye and Corporate Pride Parades, and the history of classism and racism in the LGBT movement is well documented.
mood. like i dont wear makeup regularly or do crazy things to my hair for a similar reason. i transitioned to feel better about my body, im still the same person and i never was crazy fond of makeup except for special occasions
yeah ive always been pretty effiminate too and tbh i was really weirded out by people being surprised or something. like im the tiniest human being that shied away from everything super masculine and yall are surprised? smh
yeah i had that feeling too. because i took the medical route for transitioning i eventually just started passing after some years despite dressing like i typically would, so i just used that opportunity to break out of the shell because i knew no one was judging me at that point, basically. i learned i really liked dresses and kinda hated wearing makeup regularly (it kinda irritates my skin and its hard for me to not want to scratch itches?)
Kinda late for that one. Only way to take it back at this point would be another riot with more bricks
Yeah that individual was homophobic, but the government censured that person, so I’m not really sure that proves anything except that there are homophobic individuals in DPRK society like every society
I don’t have any knowledge one way or the other, but why would they not punish them for the bad PR and embarrassment at the very least? I’m quite sure the party was not happy about that even if you think they are low key kinda homophobic
