A term taken from a Chinese proverb about opportunity in a crisis, ‘touching fish’ means being lazy at work – a philosophy China’s Generation Z workers increasingly embrace as a response to being underpaid and overworked.
Worker protections, wages and conditions are all skyrocketing. Again, you need to take a materialist look at the before and after and the big picture trends
There’s a difference between criticizing specific aspects of the Chinese revolution and throwing the entire thing under the bus. Your rhetoric is literally just parroting western talking points, so yes that’s chauvinism
There’s a difference between criticizing specific aspects of the Chinese revolution and throwing the entire thing under the bus.
There is, but it's pretty clear that he only criticized specific aspects of the Chinese revolution, namely watching as tech workers get drained out recklessly.
And I pointed out that hours, wages, and conditions have all been vastly improving year over year and this just wasn’t pure enough and thus the capitalists are in charge and the revolution is dead - despite capitalist nations seeing opposite trends since the neoliberal turn
What are you on about? We are specifically talking about the 996 system which has been in place for a long time and not much seems to have changed for the better, right?
And criticizing the seemingly slow walk the CPC took on this is chauvinism and "throwing the entire thing under the bus"? Seriously?
I’m sorry they are walking “too slow” for the pace you demand. However the metrics on hours worked, wages and conditions are all steadily improving year over year - cutting against the trend in the liberal west.
Refusing to even acknowledge this is where you are blind
You literally just kept talking about how bad the Chinese government is for allowing exploitation at all, and ignored my repeated points that they are steadily improving it and cracking down on corruption
Not at all, but this specific scheme of exploitation that has been known for some time now.
But let's just please drop this now.
Anyways, I just hope for the Chinese workers suffering under this specific practice that they will at some point get a bit fairer treatment, that is all.
I guess we should be able to agree on that, right?
Yes, we agree. Our contention is that I believe the dictatorship of the proletariat in China is working on that fairer treatment already and will continue to do so.
And you can't have better worker protections in a state capitalist system, where the state can dictate what flies or doesn't fly?
Come on.
Worker protections, wages and conditions are all skyrocketing. Again, you need to take a materialist look at the before and after and the big picture trends
I guess we'll better agree to disagree.
Have solidarity or gtfo
Solidarity with whom the Chinese capitalist exploiting their employees?
With the communist revolution of China. Please be a chauvinist on Reddit, you will find many friends there to jerk off about China bad.
Are you even serious anymore, can't question anything China does or you're a chauvinist?
Okay, buddy.
There’s a difference between criticizing specific aspects of the Chinese revolution and throwing the entire thing under the bus. Your rhetoric is literally just parroting western talking points, so yes that’s chauvinism
There is, but it's pretty clear that he only criticized specific aspects of the Chinese revolution, namely watching as tech workers get drained out recklessly.
And I pointed out that hours, wages, and conditions have all been vastly improving year over year and this just wasn’t pure enough and thus the capitalists are in charge and the revolution is dead - despite capitalist nations seeing opposite trends since the neoliberal turn
What are you on about? We are specifically talking about the 996 system which has been in place for a long time and not much seems to have changed for the better, right?
And criticizing the seemingly slow walk the CPC took on this is chauvinism and "throwing the entire thing under the bus"? Seriously?
I’m sorry they are walking “too slow” for the pace you demand. However the metrics on hours worked, wages and conditions are all steadily improving year over year - cutting against the trend in the liberal west.
Refusing to even acknowledge this is where you are blind
I am not refusing to acknowledge that. Where did I deny general advances China has made in these metrics? Please show me.
You literally just kept talking about how bad the Chinese government is for allowing exploitation at all, and ignored my repeated points that they are steadily improving it and cracking down on corruption
Not at all, but this specific scheme of exploitation that has been known for some time now.
But let's just please drop this now.
Anyways, I just hope for the Chinese workers suffering under this specific practice that they will at some point get a bit fairer treatment, that is all.
I guess we should be able to agree on that, right?
Yes, we agree. Our contention is that I believe the dictatorship of the proletariat in China is working on that fairer treatment already and will continue to do so.