I'm fairly convinced that the status quo can do nothing to prevent the collapse of complex industrial society. Obviously it's a complicated topic, but if you assume the position that by 2030 there will be dramatic, uncontrollable warming of the planet (and all of the side effects that will bring), what is to be done to prevent that?

As a guy with a decent work-from-home kind of job (for now) and enough resources to be comfortable, it's been incredibly tempting during quarantine to think about building a house off the grid, finding a stable source of drinking water, and building a sustainable farming homestead in rural America. 2020 has demonstrated that things don't always just work out. I'm worried about the precarious material conditions that pervade contemporary urban culture (at least from the perspective of sustainability if food/water/power systems are interrupted). And I know I could develop the skills I need to live like that.

But obviously, something can be done to prevent a collapse. We could work together to ensure the stability of urban environments, and produce all of the energy and matetials we need here, locally. We could put everyone to work with this goal in mind. We could build a better world collectively.

But how? How do I find a group of people to work with? How do I convince the liberals who just shrug and say, man, isn't it just terrible that trump is in charge? How do I find anyone who's thinking about this shit, and realizes that actually yes, this can all fall apart. Things are not as stable as they seem. Climate change is literally the only issue that matters in any time frame beyond 10 years.

What is next? What is there to do?

    • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Fun/gross thought experiment. Ever hear of the quiverfull movement? Ultra-right christians who have as many children as they biologically can, to ensure they have a 'quiverful of arrows' with which to fight the culture war and win votes.

      It's the virgin leftist anti-natalist vs. the chad quiverful kid farmers.

      It's, frankly, another way that reactionary ideology is reproducing itself faster than the left is. And every singly one of those leftist children that weren't born are replaced by an immigrant, who has like a 50/50 chance of being a leftist or a lib or whatever, compared to like the 99% chance that a leftist child has of becoming an antifa supersoldier hahahaha

      But, if you need a leader... I'll be--just kidding haha. You need to be the leader. And me. And we'll all keep stepping up and lifting one another, and then we'll win :)

        • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeeesssss. Through our degeneracy alone, the leftist polycules will result in leftist children horny-converting half a dozen chuds each :kropotkin-shining:

        • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Ya I hear that. The 40% of 35-and-unders in america who still live with their parents aren't exactly starting families or having kids :/

          Capitalism's really got us good, ngl :red-fist: