Meanwhile Matt Groening was on Epstein's plane.

  • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    I actually see Seth MacFarlane as a (mostly) decent person, with much of the humor in Family Guy being the fault of postmodernism and irony melting American brains. Family Guy makes a lot of trashy jokes, but I think the intent of them is to laugh at American culture rather than whatever stereotypes they're joking about. I even think he's kind of moved past it, since he's essentially just been leveraging Family Guy just to get to make his Star Trek show.

    Idk, I've learned to set aside people's more problematic aspects as long as they kick their heels in where it really matters. Standing with the writers every time, even back in 2007 when it caused Family Guy to get entirely dropped by Fox. This isn't even him just doing it because he had nothing to lose. He almost lost Family Guy over this. I will almost always respect people putting their money where their mouth is.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      The Federation in his Star Trek is called the Union and it allies with robot space Haiti to fight against transphobia.

        • buckykat [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          It's good, pirate it. Like many other Star Trek shows, the first season is kinda hit and miss. But it just keeps getting better, and the third season is excellent.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Also, Family Guy started up over 20 years ago, when MacFarlane was I assume in his 20s. People can do a lot of maturing in that time. I know if you took what I said/did 20 years ago and held that against me…

      • Facky [he/him,comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Actually older Family Guy was much better on social issues than modern FG is sometimes.

        Compare Season 2's episode where Brian is a good loving friend to his gay cousin Jasper to Season 8's episode where Brian vomits continuously for 30 seconds after he finds out he slept with a trans woman.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    It's a good thing that Matt Groening basically stopped having much to do with the Simpsons past the first few seasons

    The commonly agreed upon classic Simpsons (seasons 3 through 8) he basically was just around to nitpick and after that he went to start work on Futurama

    He apparently also didn't like Hitler jokes for some reason, so it's good that enough got past him that we could get this

    Show

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I want to like Seth MacFarlane - but something about his comedy style, and also on the Orville, is very arrogant and self important. I mean, he kind has to be to put himself in every starring and singing role .

    But as I was watching Orville I noticed that a series of young actresses came onto the show in big roles, and then left after a season. Turns out that corresponds directly with who Seth was dating at the time. Everyone is consenting adults and I haven't heard any allegations of misconduct, but he's like twice their age, and also their boss, and that kind of weirds me out.

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, maybe it's the fact that anything so popular is inherently gonna cast too broad of a net to appeal to me, who can no longer relate to anything less esoteric than Pynchon, but the humor in the family guy seasons that were around when I still watched much TV seemed kinda...eh, bottom-of-the-barrel?

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        1 year ago

        every family guy joke is either wacky absurdism, "eyyyy, black people am i right?", or a reference to a musical film that flopped at the box office in 1968.

    • WashedAnus [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The politics of the Orville made me cringe enough to stop watching.

  • thisonethatone [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I don't think Seth has been involved in family guy for a long time outside of voice acting but I prefer American Dad.

    The abuse Meg suffers for laughs is so gross that I can't look past it.

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Shitty in some ways and probably a bit transphobic but he really does care about the craft. He wouldn't integrate so much musical theater into his idiotic dick joke cartoons otherwise

    • buh [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      what else am I gonna watch while scrolling on tiktok

  • GayTuckerCarlson [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Time travel episode where Brian and Stewie accidently bring Mort Goldman back to the Soviet Union.

    MORT:

    Don't worry you two, I have a relative that lived in Moscow at this time.

    BRIAN:

    Really?

    MORT:

    A Jewish Doctor in 1952 Moscow, what could go wrong?

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      He's given out about $2 million to the striking WGA and SAG-AFTRA workers

      Which is good

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        family guy W

        one of my fav other chill moments from him was trolling FOX with entire Conway Twitty music video breaks in the middle of the show

  • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    He's one of those ones were I give him more leeway than he probably deserves. Family Guy was good when it started, and I know he's not too involved in it beyond voices now. I liked The Orville, especially by the end, and he and I have similar taste in music. I think, and this is how I judge a lot of these types of creatives, that his best impulses outweigh his worst ones. That could change, and it often does as these people get older, but he could certainly be worse.