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  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    China isn't a threat to the US.

    Accidentally based and true. China has basically done nothing to the US except exist and develop itself. It has no bases around America and isn't constantly funnelling money and guns to anti-US separatist groups. China wants peace, America wants war.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Most left generation yet my ass.

    i mean, 20 years ago the kids at work would have just been talking about the Bomb Saddam song and calling someone the f-word

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    American zoomers are only "left" as much as they want social democratic programs but will largely uphold imperialism. Way too many NATO leftists are zoomers who think they're radical because they can mention Marx and virtue signal class struggle while refusing to read theory and spending most of their activism exclusively on social media.

    Also where do you work? I'm pretty sure the zoomers I work with don't even know what NATO is. I'm in a more left-wing region for my country, but most of them focus entirely on domestic issues because our country isn't exactly pulling its weight internationally.

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Only zoomers say zoomers are the most left generation

    American union membership has more than halved from the beginning of the Cold War and communist party membership is literally like 20% of what it used to be

    Ask any old American communist who used to organize and they'll tell you how much better it was in the past

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I spoke to a [German] communist book author once and they've been around in leftist organizing since the early 90s.

      He said it was all downhill and in fact the "End of History" period had the least weak left according to his anecdotal experience.

      With each crisis like say the German military intervention in Yugoslavia, or the war in Lybia had splits and people going "ok the libs are right on this one" and the movement never recovered the lost manpower.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        If you look at campaigns it is easier to organize younger union members and the trend in small areas in Germany is positive. It is true that from the 80s till after the end of history union membership was falling very fast. However now new members can be kinda easily be won - even though class consciousness is lacking. This is true also for people with Ausbildung / Vocational training, who were harder to organize 20 years ago.

        I do agree with a lot of what is said, but want to underline that this was the perspective of a likely older left person, who was likely part of resistance to revolutionary intersectionality (in contrast to liberal one). However of course not having mass organizations and millions in financing and expropriations against the left means that you will have it harder.

        While squats are good and you had a good left support - even after the German Herbst - in the mainstream society you did not really have stuff like DWEnteignen or a principled fight against the end of Wohngemeinnützigkeit, those things and how gentrification relates to capitalism was something that had to be worked out for the public conscious after the reunification. Even plenty of the left did decry the Neue Heimat instead of defending it and framing the argument as attack against collective partial solutions. The split between migrant workers (who were often not really allowed in established unions - and who did awesome stuff i.e. Ford Streik 1973) is also less prominent now than it was, however racists are more upfront than they once were in some way (and are less upfront than in earlier times). In the early 90s I was part of a leftist group in which there was a discussion whether gay members ought to be allowed to be visible not hetero passing or if this would be bad for communist organizing in the Neue Länder.

        Relative to the very good strength East socialized left people had in the early 90s (without economic base for it though) we are much worse off. But the trend is positive once again, different than in the early 2000s.

        • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          but want to underline that this was the perspective of a likely older left person, who was likely part of resistance to revolutionary intersectionality

          That's a bit of a rude assumption. They were in his early to mid 50s when I spoke with them. They initially became active in an antifa group in southern Germany in the early 90s, so to speak of funding from the East is not adequate to the situation. (No, they're not AntiD)

          The campaigns you speak of are good, even if they're fading nowadays due to various degrees of betrayal from reformists and infighting, but are also a localized phenomenon to Berlin mostly. Here in Bavaria, all it amounted to was a petition which was immediately dismissed by the CSU courts in a "lol nope" fashion.

          The chauvinism of the 80s in regards to say migrant workers in the unions is having a renaissance among supporters of Wagenknecht and she has depressing amounts of people going "her social democracy plans are good, because they exclude foreigners and allow me to be racist!".

          While the trend is not looking downwards compared to the 2000s, I feel like the Covid era was a major setback and we are running out of time before the Merz government does an America style anticommunist propaganda/repression barrage. Then again, I am depressed and a notorious pessimist.

      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Wow it's significantly worse since even the 90s? That's depressing. My experiences were talking with people when they were doing stuff in the 60s/70s

  • Owl [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I don't know why you'd expect zoomers to know anything about BRICS, new buildings have been constructed out of particle board for longer than they've been alive.

  • ikiru@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I unironically think 'boomers' across the world threw down for the Left with revolutionary struggle harder than any generation after.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    It's not even a military alliance.

    You have a case for saying that the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation is a discount NATO but BRICS isn't even a formal economic bloc as of yet, it's just an organisation for communication and collaboration. There's no charter or policy or anything of the sort coming out of BRICS afaik.

    Seriously. Libs political analysis only ever goes so far as analogy: "Countries participate in NATO. Countries participate in BRICS. Therefore they are the same."

    That's some real big brain shit right there.

  • culpritus [any]
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    1 year ago

    cause NATO has really been flexing its might lately

    how many years did it take for Iraq2 to lose narrative cohesion?

    2024 is gonna be wild