• rozako [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I have had many interactions with European leftists. Genuine leftists who know theory. They tend to still hold A LOT of antiziganist beliefs. Romani people are one of the worst treated groups in the world. That is no way related to BLM protestors, nor would I say such a thing. I have a hard time trusting European leftists for such reasons. Do you live in France? Europe? Interact with Roma on any normal basis? Know anything about Europe’s casual racism towards us?

    I understand where you’re coming from, but American leftists DO have the tendency to ... romanticize (for lack of better word) French protestors specifically. That’s all.

    • MichelLouise [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Without disclosing too much, let's say at least that I lived in France for many years (and thanks god, I'm not American). To be fair I do not know any Romani people personally - yet I've heard countless racist remarks against them. I get you, antiziganism there is maaaaaassive (even in some leftists circles).

      But I still think it's very harsh - no, it's a gross caricature - to say that a majority of French protesters just hate you. "Romanticizing" French protestors would be a mistake - that I agree with you - but going the opposite extreme and just calling them a bunch of racists does not help either.

      • rozako [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        and thanks god, I’m not American

        lol i feel that.

        2/3s maybe wouldn’t spit on a Roma woman, but I do still believe 2/3s at least would say racist things against us. But again, I get what you’re saying. A comment I make hyperbolically criticizing the protestors doesn’t negate what they do and have done and their fight in their battle. Just a warning for unaware Americans to be careful who they idealize.