• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    they have no immunity to the Asian brand of hierarchical authoritarianism and it quickly fills the vacuum left by abandoning lib shit.

    Orientalism, in MY leftist community?

    Ahh fuck it, joke's on me for expecting better.

    • kavila [any]
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      4 years ago

      orientalism is when you live in asia your whole life and say something about how it works

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm sure being the beneficiary of white imperialism gives you great credentials to talk down to us ignorant yellow folk.

        • Jerb [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          I think he just said he was one of those yellow folk. So... pretty sure he'd know something about being one of those

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            No.

            https://hexbear.net/post/70180/comment/733891

            Also, you don't get to call anyone "those yellow folk".

        • kavila [any]
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          4 years ago

          four days ago you posted "To the neolibs, identity politics is just another arrow in an amoral quiver."

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            It's not idpol to point out that the experience of a white person in Asia is not the same as that of an Asian person in Asia. Nor is it idpol to point out that white people in Asia benefit from white supremacy.

            Living in a place for a long time doesn't make you immune from having shit takes, otherwise white people who live in Australia can't possibly have shit takes about Aboriginal peoples, white people in the US can't have shit takes about black people or native Americans, etc, etc.

            • kavila [any]
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              4 years ago

              I grew up here, my wife is from here, I speak the language and 99% of the people I interact with are locals

              like what the fuck do you want from me

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Maybe arguing the merits of your claims instead of stating your experience like this is a bullshit job interview?

                Many MAGA chuds also grew up in the US, have spouses from the US, speak English and interact with "locals" 99% of the time. That doesn't stop them from having shitty, racist, takes.

                You can be who you are and still engage in orientalism.

                • kavila [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  I don't think it's racist to say that authoritarian rulers in Asia have different psychological tactics than authoritarian rulers in the West

                  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    A big part of orientalism is rolling diverse Asian cultures into a whole to contrast (negatively) with the West.

                    Asia is home to many diverse political systems that have been labeled as "authoritarian". However, you're implying a nebulous set of common authoritarian tactics and values that are both inherently Asian and have no other commonality except being Asian.

                    The governments of India, the DPRK, China, Japan, and even Singapore have been labeled "authoritarian" by various groups at various times. If you want to draw similarities between the tactics they use, you have to be much more granular in your analysis than just going "well, they're Asian, they do things differently."