I'm just curious if there are any Odin worshippers or druids or what have you in this community. I'm thinking about that Nazi pagan in DC but I know there's lots of pagan comrades who would hang him upside down from a tree.
I'm just curious if there are any Odin worshippers or druids or what have you in this community. I'm thinking about that Nazi pagan in DC but I know there's lots of pagan comrades who would hang him upside down from a tree.
Know this might be directed more at European pagans but wanted to chime in that I think a lot of pagan worship goes on in disguise in mexican communities. Like a lot of saints and the like might be older gods from mexico or something.
The virgin Mary always has a back drop of stars and the heavens and I think she is supposed to be connected with a Moon goddess. Also if you ask some mexicans there's la Santa Muerte. Don't know what other peeps might tell you but my mom always told me she was the Virgin Mary's sister and named La Santa Marta, connecting it back with my original idea makes sense. Also from how my mom and other sources I've heard La Santa Muerte protects the lumpen so cool.
As for practicing things myself I have some baraja espanola cards, basically Spanish fortune telling cards, they my mom's but she doesn't have time to use them anymore. Also have a book on La Santa Muerte. The book in spanish and I sometimes struggle reading it, I only know how to speak spanish because parents but struggle reading it since never formally taught.
Been trying to get nephews interested in card reading but younger doesn't have the attention span and older one doesn't wanna fuck around with the supernatural. Still need to ask mom for some meaning behind cards though, used some online but find them lacking.
Anyway going back to yesterday fuck that fash. They take cool things ruin them and give the rest of our pagan comrades a bad name.
catholism in latin america used saints workship as a way to integrate other religious beliefs, in brazil slaves had their own african religions and they would incorporate those in attempts to bring slaves into christianity (which technically would make the whole slaving them a sin in the catholic sense as one of the reasons for slavery being ok was that they said that they had no soul and could not be saved) and because of that there are syncretic african-christian religions in brazil
I definitely don't want to direct this exclusively at European pagans! I should have made this more clear in my post. I would love to hear from any other minority religious/spiritual groups.
And I think you're absolutely right about pagan syncretism in LatAm Catholicism. That's a well-documented phenomena with a lot of different variations through Mexico, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean.
With you and @CrimsonSage I'll be honest this the first time I've heard that word, syncretism. It's cool, I guess I like the word pagan too but in my mind I've always interpreted that word to mean like druids too.
syncretism isn't specifically for paganish LatAm Catholicism. It's the anthropological term for a mixture of cultures/religions.
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It technically doesn't have to be exclusively for religion but that's how it's most often used.
I'm spanish and i could never understand that thing. I get tarot, but are you seriously telling me that the same cards i use to play several games can be used for divination??
Ok, Death means this and The Chariot means that. Cool. What the fuck does the 3 of cups mean? The 3 of golds? the 2 of sticks?
Each is supposed to have have meaning and I think like one card is supposed to represent you. So from what I remember my mom said the dude on the horse and sword is me.
Copas I think are supposed to deal with love, bastos mean like journey I think, oros is money, and espadas trouble. Your definitions might vary based on who you go to.
There are two ways you do it but for both you say a prayer, I think because you are doing a magic there is still invoking Jesus's name to protect you.
After you shuffle the cards you either deal them out while counting to seven then go sota, caballo, y rey, if a one comes out when you count one you set that card aside and so on. The other method is spreading them on a table 4 rows ten columns. You find the card that represent you and count left or right by ten and turn that card sideways. At the end you try to make sense of it.
I still need to learn all the card meanings from my mom but you can probably find some online if you look. Sorry if this a mess but trying my best to describe.
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I wish I had some tbh. I think this a combination of a class I took years ago in community college, reading Joseph Campbell's work when younger, and reflecting on a lot of saint practices growing up. The funny thing is we aren't catholic but my parents still do a lot of prayers and candles to their favorite saints. A lot of this doesn't really get talked about because we christian or something and it's frown on back when we used to go to church. Looking at the virgin Mary she got a cloak of stars and the moon at her feet in some images. Would love to read some formal writing on it but this all I have to go on it.