CTH obviously didn’t do their research before the most recent Patreon ep. They’re legit upset that an “unarmed woman” was shot in the Capitol building.

She was shot while trying to climb through a window into the area where they were keeping the politicians. I get that calling this idiocy a coup is stupid, I get that it’s going to be used to crack down on leftist groups with increased surveillance. I get that the state is a much more significant threat than these dipshits, and I’m not happy that the state killed someone. But chapo had obviously not seen the video when they made this ep cause nobody in their right minds would think the state would just let someone waltz into a secured area housing some of the highest-ranking politicians in the country, armed or otherwise. I don’t see what else they would’ve expected to come out of that situation and trying to call police brutality or unjust state violence here seems misguided to me and ultimately futile.

Kinda feels like they’re just trying to distance themselves from the MSM narrative and are over-correcting a little bit

Edit to add that the guest was obviously downplaying the situation - saying that the woman was simply “standing near” a window and just happened to get shot. And he’s supposed to be the one who knows what’s going on... can’t tell if just uninformed or dishonest narrative peddling.

  • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is their shtick though. They've always done stuff like this to some degree. Will was straight up just regurgitating twitter takes. I caught onto this a long while back. If you follow the chapos on twitter, and follow who they follow, you'll see it every time. Sometimes it's obvious and Will might even mention it's from twitter. But this one he's definitely doing the grade-school book report of "summarize this in your own words" kind of thing. Where you just change "The guy went to the store to buy a cake" to "A cake was bought at a store by the guy." That's why they come off as insightful. They just crowd source takes from twitter and if you're already an online leftist, you get those takes filtered to you anyways. Think of all the twitter screens that get posted here. You end up getting what you already see/think regurgitated back to you. So it seems like you're learning something or that their takes are pretty good. But it's literally just them reading a lot of social media and taking the best stuff.

    A lot of their reaction to the coup claims and how this is being framed comes from them seeing exasperated libs on twitter thinking everything Trump does is a coup attempt. They also have grown tired of the right-wing-watch genre of leftist. The libs expanded into that space after 2016, so it's not cool anymore. They actually did some early eps on the right wing watch stuff. But present Chapos would tell past Chapos they're being lib for worrying about it. Once you realize it's all about twitter takes then it's easier to see how they arrive at their conclusions.

    • GrilletteStadium [any]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I agree with everything and particularly your second paragraph. People often accuse leftists of being “contrarian,” and it’s often bullshit, but this episode particularly struck me as really just being contrarian relative to lib twitter takes.