We pirate movies, games and songs that are made by workers who would undoubtedly make more money if we had bought them instead. Nevertheless we justify piracy by saying that intellectual property is unjust and exploitative.

So wouldn't the same logic apply to OnlyFans? There is currently a movement where people are subscribing to OnlyFans, uploading all the content on porn sites and then unsubscribing. I'm seeing this get criticized, but it's the same things as piracy right? Those who do want to pay will pay, while those who pirate are those who never would have paid in the first place.

  • Mallow [any,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I don't like these conversations but I never see anyone bring up what bothers me most about it. Consent to view those photos is given to people on the condition that they pay.

    The difference between pirating a game (lets say this is an indie game made by like 1 dev so that it's still wrong to take because it's one person's labor that they're now not getting paid for) and someone's nudes is like how physically stealing someone's shit irl is bad but trying to "steal" services from a sex worker is also sexual assault.

    People who are uploading content from OnlyFans elsewhere feel entitled to the women's bodies for free even when those aren't her conditions. See the mass amount of men who constantly degrade sex workers even though they hire them or watch porn or whatever.

    • weshallovercum [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think it's not accurate to call pirating porn "sexual assault". Like that makes zero sense to me. It's just porn. You make a product and you want to sell it. But since your product can be replicated infinitely at zero cost, it makes no sense to pay for it.

      I'm not saying that pirating porn is good or bad, I'm saying it is fundamentally the same as pirating anything else.

        • weshallovercum [any]
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          4 years ago

          How are those two things contradictory? Producing and selling porn is no different from making and selling other media. So IF it is wrong to pirate sex-work, it is wrong to pirate other stuff too. You cannot place porn above other things. This argument does not depend on mine or your opinion on the morality of piracy.

          • rozako [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah game devs usually aren’t killed or sexually assaulted routinely in their field of work like sex workers are, so I would say they are more exploited than those workers.

            • weshallovercum [any]
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              4 years ago

              I'm specifically talking about porn. Obviously my argument would make no sense when it comes to physical sex work, as you can't pirate that.

      • Mallow [any,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        You're banned so idk if you'll see this but I mean I wasn't calling it assault either but it's still immoral for the same reasons. Like I know assault is more for a physical action but you're still violating someone in a sexual way by not abiding by the terms of consent.

        When I mentioned assault I was comparing stealing physical products and not paying sex workers irl for their services, because I thought it would make the difference more clear. Like the horrible joke people make about if raping a sex worker is rape or theft. It's still rape because the terms were that there'd be money involved.

        I think that "Sex work is work" is a nice and catchy slogan and maybe did some good but people take it to extremes. Your logic is extremely similar to the Vaush (forgive me for mentioning him) argument about child porn being no more exploitative than other forms of child labor- therefore owning a computer that involved child slavery in its production is the same as watching child porn. It is different, it's not the same as any other product.