Actually V**sh is a little worse. I’m curious what kind of people would want to watch either though.

  • GraydonCarter [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    she isn't nearly as irritating as vaush, but she isn't great and defends a lot of people who suck ass all the time. not really sure what her appeal is or who her audience is.

    • WetAssPossum [they/them,ey/em]
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      4 years ago

      Being leftist is countercultural. Marketing liberalism (or conservatism in Shoe's case) that was painted red as a countercultural movement is a grift that apparently works on some people.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      not really sure what her appeal is or who her audience is.

      It used to be largely right wingers, but also people drawn into this by the internet atheist/"skeptic" subculture. Lots of dudes started watching her because they knew Armoured Skeptic and found her hot and also owned SJWs ebic style.

      I used to watch Thunderf00t and AS when I was a kid for their science/atheism adjacent shit which in hindsight was mostly but not entirely cringe. I didn't know much at all about feminism etc back then and I didn't care that much (although thankfully growing up I had a mostly positive opinion of it generally) so I somehow managed to mostly miss the antifeminist wave post Gamergate, despite watching some of the channels perpetrating it I didn't even notice what was happening lol. The only vids I watched on the subject were a few that Thunderf00t made about Sarkeesian and her thesis which had a bunch of weird stats and typos etc and overall looked very shoddy and all I got from it was "wow Sarkeesian is kinda dumb" but then these channels kept uploading vids about SJWs and I was like "come on I don't fucking care I just want to see people dunking on climate change deniers and creationists what is this shit" so I just ended up not watching the vids when I saw them popping up and moving on. I visited Shoe's channel a few times and I just thought it was full of stuff I really didn't care about.

      End result was I didn't even realize the scale of what was going on until later on when I started engaging with social justice issues. It was pretty weird looking back and being like "wow, all that stuff was kinda just hiding in plain sight". It really makes me do a big thonk how easily I could have been radicalised being a young dude with lots of internalised homophobia despite being bisexual (actually back then I was almost entirely gay) had I not learned from my mother that feminism good not bad... And I guess a much larger percentage of my friends were girls compared to other dudebros so maybe that too.