If you're looking around and happy that trans comrades are leaving and what we get to keep in return is a bunch of people jerking off over process and mod procedure and 'Well, Actually, As a Heterosexual' I don't know how to explain it that this a terrible fucking trade. Rather than do more as a community for people who felt marginalized or bullied in what is purportedly leftist, tolerant place, actual best posters are leaving.
I don't want to convince anyone to stay though, I don't want us to *need * convincing anyone to stay. It's easy enough looking around to pat ourselves on the back and say "at least I'm not part of the problem, I was always supportive of our trans comrades," but then things go back to business as usual. The problem can't be fixed just by banning transphobes (although we should be absolutely doing that). Let trans comrades go if they don't feel comfortable. The job now is to do the work on turning the place into somewhere that trans comrades can come back to and feel supported, which is only going to happen with active and sometimes unpleasant discussions about where we've failed.
The alternative to that is that we keep bleeding trans and non-cis people and this place doubles down on what's causing people to leave, and if that happens I don't see it recovering. I wouldn't want to stay around myself (not that that's a huge loss, I deleted the account I posted on regularly 2fast2war out of unnecessary fear of doxing) but every step outlined that has cishets throwing a fit is an observable point where we've *lost * marginalized comrades. If the community itself refuses to put in the work to make people feel safer and at home, no amount of banning or administration will change the nature of the space here.
If you’re looking around and happy that trans comrades are leaving and what we get to keep in return is a bunch of people jerking off over process and mod procedure and ‘Well, Actually, As a Heterosexual’ I don’t know how to explain it that this a terrible fucking trade.
can't signal boost this enough. If I wanted to hang out in a circle jerk of a bunch of over privileged straight white dudes I'd literally just go hang out on reddit more. Incidentally, it's what I suggest people should do if they have any issues with what our trans comrades are saying here. There's already a space for you lot, fuck off.
If you're looking around and happy that trans comrades are leaving and what we get to keep in return is a bunch of people jerking off over process and mod procedure and 'Well, Actually, As a Heterosexual' I don't know how to explain it that this a terrible fucking trade. Rather than do more as a community for people who felt marginalized or bullied in what is purportedly leftist, tolerant place, actual best posters are leaving.
I don't want to convince anyone to stay though, I don't want us to *need * convincing anyone to stay. It's easy enough looking around to pat ourselves on the back and say "at least I'm not part of the problem, I was always supportive of our trans comrades," but then things go back to business as usual. The problem can't be fixed just by banning transphobes (although we should be absolutely doing that). Let trans comrades go if they don't feel comfortable. The job now is to do the work on turning the place into somewhere that trans comrades can come back to and feel supported, which is only going to happen with active and sometimes unpleasant discussions about where we've failed.
The alternative to that is that we keep bleeding trans and non-cis people and this place doubles down on what's causing people to leave, and if that happens I don't see it recovering. I wouldn't want to stay around myself (not that that's a huge loss, I deleted the account I posted on regularly 2fast2war out of unnecessary fear of doxing) but every step outlined that has cishets throwing a fit is an observable point where we've *lost * marginalized comrades. If the community itself refuses to put in the work to make people feel safer and at home, no amount of banning or administration will change the nature of the space here.
can't signal boost this enough. If I wanted to hang out in a circle jerk of a bunch of over privileged straight white dudes I'd literally just go hang out on reddit more. Incidentally, it's what I suggest people should do if they have any issues with what our trans comrades are saying here. There's already a space for you lot, fuck off.