While some of you may have seen this before, a shocking number of users appear to not understand that we have this wonderful device.

It can allow a user to look at the things mods and admins have to remove; and if you were ever to wonder why you keep seeing users, mods, and admins leave due to transphobia, you could pursue through it to see what they're talking about.

  • foolie [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Cool, now I can read harrowing accounts like the very first one:

    whines about policy, but makes no suggestions. senseless contrarian over doing uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh literally anything????

    • comi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Stonedape have not lasted even 24 hours:(

      • foolie [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I have no doubt there’s nasty shit that has been removed.

        But when the very first action is somebody getting banned for talking back to the mods, rather than actually engaging in any conduct that harms a person, why would I care to look further?

        It’s not going to change my habit of occasionally browsing this forum either way, but if you’re going to make a point of naming your crusade and showing everybody your war record, it’d work better if it appeared to not be what worriers think it’s about.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          Things like this are typically wrecker account bans as far as I'm aware, historically the site has had wrecker problems from extremely dedicated users making accounts specifically to engage in activity to harm the site and there's active action from the team to cull those accounts. There probably needs to be a clearer policy for writing modlogs about those though, particularly as they're judgement calls based on user behaviour and account age.

          I can understand how this might look bad to some who has only been on the site for a month, particularly based on how that log is written. That one I'm really not sure of though.

          • Zman51 [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Is that poster a wrecker though? I didn't think the posts they wrote were ban worthy, but maybe I'm missing some specific context here.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Not in this case I think. I don't know the full context or history either though. I suspect falling on the problem side of things over and over and over again. I'm personally not familiar enough with the user to say with any confidence though.

              • flooze [any]
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                3 years ago

                It's a trans comrade that accidentally got caught in the original purge. They got banned in this case after saying that they found it personally invalidating for TC69 to imply that only cissies criticized the moderation policies and that her only regret was not banning more cissies.

        • Inshallah [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Not just the first one, the first 20. The last post that was legitametly remove worthy was 8 hours ago.

      • Zman51 [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        This is kind of an issue though. The most virulent transphobes are troll accounts that get banned right away and their posts get removed. If users get banned and/or called transphobes for disagreeing with mod policy, the unfortunate side effect will be that users are going to miss those worst posts and only see other users get labelled transphobes by the mods for "whining about policy" or whatever and they're going to start questioning the narrative of transphobia on the site, which btw I do think exists.

      • foolie [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Why? Did Stonedape have a big history of harassing people and returning with new accounts or something? Or were they just on the other side of an argument about site policy one too many times?

        • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          Yeah now is actually a really good time to practice shutting the fuck up and not nitpicking every little thing and boy howdy do a lot of people have trouble with that simple act.

          There's a time for that kind of discussion but when there's very clearly a malicious effort going on against the site is not that time.

          There's documented evidence of bad faith trolling and shit-stirring, and if in the face of that your biggest concern is nitpicking the goddamn modlogs, you either have brain worms or you're part of the problem.