HOT TAKE! It can't be both.

NephewAlphaBravo phrased this better than I did.

Inviting libs means inviting a constant stream of new users’ shitty takes. “Place where we constantly rehash this shit with libs” is in direct tension with “place where trans users can just chill and not have to rehash this shit”

I'm not trying to say "a good lib-to-left pipeline community means we shouldn't fight transphobia".

I'm saying we should decide if we want to clap up all Transphobia and protect our feelings, or engage with people that might only have a few brain worms and sort them out in order to grow a larger community.

Ban trenched in transphobes. Acknowledge that being transphobic is the default in 2021 and many people who identify as leftist probably have some transphobic views. Last year I didn't like neo-pronouns and I quickly had my mind changed. A few years ago I agreed with Obama when he said BLM were thugs. Is this supposed to be a community where people like me can come to learn and be radicalized?

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I agree to an extent, but taking this too far leaves weird fucked up ideologies to fester.

    For example, imagine if someone who has shitty ideas about race is interested in universal Healthcare. If they don't reform their views on the former, any radicalization will only turn them into a Nazbol.

    And frankly, I wouldn't want to hang out on a site with a bunch of Nazbols or TERFS.