HOT TAKE! It can't be both.

NephewAlphaBravo phrased this better than I did.

Inviting libs means inviting a constant stream of new users’ shitty takes. “Place where we constantly rehash this shit with libs” is in direct tension with “place where trans users can just chill and not have to rehash this shit”

I'm not trying to say "a good lib-to-left pipeline community means we shouldn't fight transphobia".

I'm saying we should decide if we want to clap up all Transphobia and protect our feelings, or engage with people that might only have a few brain worms and sort them out in order to grow a larger community.

Ban trenched in transphobes. Acknowledge that being transphobic is the default in 2021 and many people who identify as leftist probably have some transphobic views. Last year I didn't like neo-pronouns and I quickly had my mind changed. A few years ago I agreed with Obama when he said BLM were thugs. Is this supposed to be a community where people like me can come to learn and be radicalized?

  • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Based on looking at stupidpol twice, I assure you very few people there are actually reading theory. Literally the first/top post I saw was in support of Andrew Yang, who is a Silicon Valley capitalist, and the argument was that he is closer to being a socialist than any other US politician. Their group description is laughable, because, while there is a Marxist critique of identity politics, 100% of the posts have nothing to do with Marxism.

    • Moosegender [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They have theory stickied on the top. Which is more than you can say about chapo.

      And no one actually reads theory. So they are like every other leftist space.